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Would like information on a router and table that is just a good reliable setup. All the reviews I have read indicates most tables have several items that seem to affect alignment problems. Some tables do not accept some routers. I am interested in a decent quality table and router for occasional use that if possible could be purchased under $400.00 Is there such a item?
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Hello Gibbo! Glad to welcome You! One of the problems is that each brand router has different bolt pattrens,so it is neccessary to drill bolt holes through the table to install the router. Some tables come predrilled for a brand, or model of router. The only big problem that comes with that is the router has to be centered to work correctly. It isn't as hard as it sounds.The router has a thin bace plate attached to the bottom of the rourwe. You need to center it on the table to have the shaft , or router bit come out of the table centered to the hole. You will need to be aware of this any time You decide to replace a router, or to build, or buy the special table You have wanted. Hope this will help. Others will reply also! The one thing YOU can do is to add Your name to Your profile page. Thankyou!

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$300 will buy you an excellent router lift, the other $100(more or less) will buy you enough wood to build a table around it. If you want to throw a decent router into the mix forget the lift. Get yourself something like the P-C 690 or, if you want to splurge, the Bosch 1617.

Think of it as a learning experience. Do some research, spend some time thinking about your particular needs and how to build something that'll meet them. Make some sketches to figure out what you'll need to buy. Then build it! It ain't rocket science(sorry, I think "aerospace engineering" is the current PC phrase...).

After all, a router table is just a flat piece of material with parallel surfaces, a router attached to one side and some way to support it to make sure it stays flat. A fence is just a piece of material with a flat face and one edge square to it. You need to attach it to the table, you can use something as simple as a couple of screws or clamps or something as complex as an Incra fence system.

It can be as simple or complicated as you want to make it.

My advice for a first router table: go down to the local big box store and get yourself a small piece of MDF and a 2x4. Maybe a couple of C-clamps if you don't have any. Drill a hole in the middle of the MDF and figure out how to attach your router somewhere reasonably close to the center of it. Use the 2x4 for a fence, clamping each end. Support it with a couple of sawhorses. That's it, you now have a router table. Work with it for a while, figure out all the things you'd like it to do that it doesn't: things that would make the work go more quickly, that would make it easier to use, that would provide better dust collection.

Now go looking for a fancy table you can buy that would meet those needs. Dollars to doughnuts you'll end up building your own. Been there, done that, got a couple of T-shirts and spent a lot of money along the way.....

IMHO, router tables are like women(or men): there's no such thing as One Size Fits All. You just have to play the field until you find somehting that works for you....

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billg71 is right about a basic table being just a flat surface that holds a router. I have three tables from primitive to complex. The primitive gets as much work as the others. I recently saw the Grizzly President's Special Table recommended on this forum. I am now assembling it and I have to say I am impressed. I don't think you can buy the materials for the cost of $130. If you are new to woodworking, think about trying this. You will learn about router tables and this will do most of what you want to do for some time. With familiarity you will be able to alter the Grizzly or build a stable specific to your needs. It's almost impossible to come up with the perfect table without getting frustrated first with a few that are less than perfect. The Grizzly is pretty darn good and be sure you get an extra mounting plate or two. The plates were only 13.95 a few weeks ago. I got 5.
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Thank you John. From trying to do research what you said makes sense.
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Billg1 Thank You. Will give it a try. Truly after 39 years in the Aircraft field and being 78 don' really like to much of a challenge.
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gibbo,

If you haven't already found it, Pat Warner's Router Woodworking is a great site.

Have fun!!

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My first post on this awesome forum and I'm pretty much a routing beginner, but I recently bought a Bosch 1617 fixed base/plunge router set, and Bosch's RA1181 router table. I splurged and got the naked fixed base for permanent router table use (yeah, I know its a naked fixed base ... uh .. base, but what the heck. To meet your needs, just the fixed base router plus the router table should be less than $400 and provide a great setup.

After lots of reading many forums and reviews I decided that the RA1181 was a decent cost-effective starting point for me. It went together pretty easily, though I wish the assortment of somewhat similar - but different - nuts & bolts that came with it were a little easier to understand. I used an empty 18-egg carton to sort and label them before I put it together, and it helped a lot.

Not only do they match perfectly, but it also has the "adjust height from the top of the table" feature. Cool.

Oh, and I like that its a benchtop router table, since my space is limited and I plan to stow this on a shelf when not in use.

I have a lot to learn.
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My first post on this awesome forum and I'm pretty much a routing beginner, but I recently bought a Bosch 1617 fixed base/plunge router set, and Bosch's RA1181 router table. I splurged and got the naked fixed base for permanent router table use (yeah, I know its a naked fixed base ... uh .. base, but what the heck. To meet your needs, just the fixed base router plus the router table should be less than $400 and provide a great setup.

After lots of reading many forums and reviews I decided that the RA1181 was a decent cost-effective starting point for me. It went together pretty easily, though I wish the assortment of somewhat similar - but different - nuts & bolts that came with it were a little easier to understand. I used an empty 18-egg carton to sort and label them before I put it together, and it helped a lot.

Not only do they match perfectly, but it also has the "adjust height from the top of the table" feature. Cool.

Oh, and I like that its a benchtop router table, since my space is limited and I plan to stow this on a shelf when not in use.

I have a lot to learn.
Hello - I too have just purchased the RA1181 and have had the same challenges with the nuts and bolts. I bought it to go with my 1617EVS combo router kit. I am at the stage of attaching the base unit to the table plate, but I am finding that the hole pattern does not align. I can get two screws in, but no more. Does the 1181 not work with the combo unit? I see in your post that you purchased another fixed base router for the table - is that the reason why? I would not be a happy puppy if I can't get the combo unit working with the table.

Thanks for any advice you can provide.

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The holes are different between the fixed base and the plunge base on a 1617; mount the fixed base to your table and leave the wooden knobs off for more clearance. My pair of 1617's have been trouble free for over 11 years now. I highly encourage new users to purchase the RA1173AT dust collection accessory kit.
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