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Well I didn’t want to spend any money on my cabinet and so far it hasn’t cost me anything, but I can’t find enough scraps to make the drawer fronts. I have another full 4x8 sheet of ” white Melamine Particle Board, but it’s all the way in the back of my wood shed with 10 or 15 sheets of plywood stacked in front of it.

All I need is about 13” x 48” piece of it, but I can buy ”x15 ”x 97” White Melamine Shelf for $15 and I’m wondering if I should just give in and save my back from moving all that plywood. If I didn’t care what it looked like, I could probably find other scraps of plywood to make the drawers but it wouldn’t be consistent.

I do have enough pieces to have half drawer fronts and they would look more like bin drawers. I’m just wondering how much saw dust will end up inside the drawers.

Anybody have bin type drawers in your shop?
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Make the drawer fronts out of the first piece of ply in the stack. Easy to get to, costs you nothing more than you've already spent and your table won't look like it came from Walmart or Ikea.

Forget bin fronts, save a few minutes now and spend hours cleaning up dust in the future. What's the old saying, "Sin in haste, repent at leisure"?

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P.S. Just to answer your question about bin-front drawers in my shop: Hell no!
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I've got central dust collection, ambient air filtration, open windows, and individual tool dust extraction. Anything not fully enclosed in a drawer and or cabinet gets dust on it.

I work in a shop and make dust. Sweeping, blowing off, wiping down, vacuuming is all part of the "joy" of doing it.

Bin type stuff I have that is somewhat away from the cutting, sanding and spraying areas are least effected.

On my router table I got one large flush drawer below the dust box that holds feathers and sleds, setup tools and inserts hang on the open legs or are poked in holes drilled into the shelf covering the drawer, the table projects beyond the "cabinet" on all sides enough so direct drop down of any dust not taken up by the collector falls pretty much on the floor.

My cutters and other table accessories are stored in drawers and cabinets within arms reach behind me so no need for a bunch of boxes on the table cabinet itself.

Bin openings on fully drawered cabinet might collect more dust but a lot depends on how effective collection is at the table.
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Make the drawer fronts out of the first piece of ply in the stack. Easy to get to, costs you nothing more than you've already spent and your table won't look like it came from Walmart or Ikea.

Forget bin fronts, save a few minutes now and spend hours cleaning up dust in the future. What's the old saying, "Sin in haste, repent at leisure"?

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P.S. Just to answer your question about bin-front drawers in my shop: Hell no!
Thanks Bill that's what I was afraid of
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I've got central dust collection, ambient air filtration, open windows, and individual tool dust extraction. Anything not fully enclosed in a drawer and or cabinet gets dust on it.

I work in a shop and make dust. Sweeping, blowing off, wiping down, vacuuming is all part of the "joy" of doing it.

Bin type stuff I have that is somewhat away from the cutting, sanding and spraying areas are least effected.

On my router table I got one large flush drawer below the dust box that holds feathers and sleds, setup tools and inserts hang on the open legs or are poked in holes drilled into the shelf covering the drawer, the table projects beyond the "cabinet" on all sides enough so direct drop down of any dust not taken up by the collector falls pretty much on the floor.

My cutters and other table accessories are stored in drawers and cabinets within arms reach behind me so no need for a bunch of boxes on the table cabinet itself.

Bin openings on fully drawered cabinet might collect more dust but a lot depends on how effective collection is at the table.
Hi Tom, sorry I just now saw your post must have posted at the same time.

I also have dust collection but it just gets the heavy stuff, everything get covered in dust. The absolutely worst was recently when I made a sled out of MDF and routed T-slots. That MDF was just unbelievable and I had to get my leaf blower out of the garden shed, open all the doors and just blow it all out of my garage. I wave 3 rollaway tool boxes and surprisingly enough there wasn’t much dust in the closed drawers. I did have one drawer left open and I had to vacuum it out.

I have not used my Router table yet so I don't know how it will be, but my first project is to make sliding dovetail joints for the drawers as shown in this video.

Dovetail Joinery with a Router - YouTube
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Yep, MDF= dust up the ying yang. I think my air filter just blows it around. Water based lacquer, sprayed with HVLP dries so quick that its fine dust before it hits the floor gets airborne and gets everywhere. Respirator is a def with those two.
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I've recently installed two Oneida Air Dust Deputies - the small (shop vac-based- $75) 'Dust Deputy', and the industrial 'Super Dust Deputy'' (in-line to my main DC - $300), and they have virtually eliminated both the chips and ambient dust from the shop. At this point, my miter saw and table saw dust capture are the nagging issue. My recommendation is to look into these - highly recommended. For my hand-held router, I've created a dust capture box - low tech and ugly, to be kind, but it captures most of the MDF vapor - I have an old router, without DC. I paid for this by selling unused tools on Craigslist.
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I've recently installed two Oneida Air Dust Deputies - the small (shop vac-based- $75) 'Dust Deputy', and the industrial 'Super Dust Deputy'' (in-line to my main DC - $300), and they have virtually eliminated both the chips and ambient dust from the shop. At this point, my miter saw and table saw dust capture are the nagging issue. My recommendation is to look into these - highly recommended. For my hand-held router, I've created a dust capture box - low tech and ugly, to be kind, but it captures most of the MDF vapor - I have an old router, without DC. I paid for this by selling unused tools on Craigslist.
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Hi Mike, Im just learning about dust collection and have only had my Harbor Freight Dust collection for a couple of months I think. It was only hooked up to my table saw at first and I just ran 4 pipe across the garage for my new router table and although I havent actually used the table yet I did try picking up some saw dust with the hose end and Im a little disappointed. Im not sure how effective it will be when Im actually using the router. I may just have to use my shop vac for the table.

Anyway back to the drawers after watching some drawer making videos, Im thinking about making a shallow box maybe 3 high for the drawers and add the fronts as a separate piece later when I get some cheep plywood.
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I find the Table Saw does not generate that much dust (contrary to what I've heard/read many people say) - perhaps I just don't see it; however, the Router is a dust machine. The HF Dust Collector (at 2hp) should support both your TS & RT - install blast gate, and open only the one you're using, though, much depends on length and bends within the 4" pipe, and whether the pipe elevates to the garage roof, then down to the fan: I've run mine along the wall, about 2' above the floor. I've spent considerable time trying to optimize my 1.5hp Delta DC. The Dust Deputy has significantly helped by shop vac; for the main DC, most dust & chips are removed from the air stream mid-way between my equipment and the main DC - this helps keep the air flowing.
The 3-1/2" drawers are a great height - my current build (I'm building one in the shop) will have mostly this size, with two 8" drawers for other things.
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I find the Table Saw does not generate that much dust (contrary to what I've heard/read many people say) - perhaps I just don't see it; however, the Router is a dust machine. The HF Dust Collector (at 2hp) should support both your TS & RT - install blast gate, and open only the one you're using, though, much depends on length and bends within the 4" pipe, and whether the pipe elevates to the garage roof, then down to the fan: I've run mine along the wall, about 2' above the floor. I've spent considerable time trying to optimize my 1.5hp Delta DC. The Dust Deputy has significantly helped by shop vac; for the main DC, most dust & chips are removed from the air stream mid-way between my equipment and the main DC - this helps keep the air flowing.
The 3-1/2" drawers are a great height - my current build (I'm building one in the shop) will have mostly this size, with two 8" drawers for other things.
Hi Mike,

Well I really hope that my DC works with the router. Maybe its just the hose connection, but I just don’t know yet. I’ve been working long days this week and I just haven’t had any time to do anything.

I’m still working on my DC system and I don’t have everything fastened down yet because I’m still experimenting, but here is what I have so far for the Router table


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