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Hi, I'm new to the forum, and am looking to upgrade from my cheapo 25 yr old aluminum table (that I've used on 4 different routers, there's getting to be a lot of holes in the top). A local fellow has offered to sell me his home made New Yankee Workshop table, for $100. I'm sure he's at least sunk that much in parts so I'm not dickering with the price. He's replaced it with space saving a table saw-router table combo.

My question is, I checked and I believe he has done a decent job making this, and the table is true. The only drawback I see is it takes up a lot of room, and I'm not a huge fan of the large openings for the bits in the off the shelf table insert he bought. I'm thinking that making my own insert with 1/4" aluminum would be more to my liking.

Anyway, what do you guys think?, is there anything I should double check on the table prior to buying? He's a decent guy, I really don't want to insult his work or haggle. But if something is critical that I may have missed please let me know. fyi, it comes with a variable speed switch, and T grooves, rollers etc. Also all the drawers with slides. One other option I'm considering, I have a long new butcher block table, 3' x 8'. I got this for cheap and am considering just sticking an insert in one end. Then just using clamps and home made fences. Any thoughts on this as an alternate choice?

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Jim, have you considered buying your friend's setup and then replacing the tabletop with something more to your liking? It should not be too hard to make a replacement for the top only - with a smaller opening hole that would be more agreeable to your type of routing. OR...Possibly you could even purchase an insert to drop-in to an even larger rectangular hole and then with insert rings you can refine even better. To me, it sounds as if he has put a lot of money into it. If the drawers, speed control, etc are to your liking it sounds to me like he is making you a really good offer. Good luck!

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I agree with Otis. Price out what it would cost to make the top or at least what the T tracks and etc would cost then decide what the base is worth to you. A decent plate will run you $35 bucks at MLCS and aluminum will run $66 bucks. Although both of these may have holes that are too big for your liking or they may be what is in the table to start with. The problem with making a plate with your own hole is what size do you choose? If you are going to be using a large panel bit you would need a hole somewhere around 3" in diameter a small rounder bit would need a hole around 1". The best you can hope for in a plate is something that offers a range which you will normally use.
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Jim, the Fine Woodworking Magazine design which many people think is "Norm's" is a very nice furniture style cabinet. The materials alone would run you close to $300 with the drawer slides. For $100 it is a very good deal.

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Hi Jim,

"Takes up a lot of space" is the comment of yours that stands out the most in all the different ways you described the table you are thinking about purchasing. Changing plates out, or for that matter the entire top are things that can be done easily enough if the rest of the picture adds up to your liking.

Since this isn't your first table, you have 'ideas' about the 'directions' you want to head with your 'setup'. One thing I am kind of sensing, and I could be off base here, is that your current table is more 'portable' and the one you are looking at is more 'stationary'.

Have you considered dust collection? These days, I do all my routing outside in the driveway where I can just let it spray.

Since it sounds like you might have the opportunity to test drive this setup, perhaps that is something you should do. The dynamics of bit changes and height adjustments are just two things that would be verified by actually using it a bit. How much time does it take to get the set up from 'unloaded' (no bit in the machine) to having the right cutter spinning at the right height? More importantly than the numeric answer, are you satisfied with the 'time overhead' in that regard...

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I bought it, and no regrets. This will be the beginning of a whole new routing experience. No more clamping or nailing the table to a bench, I'll have space to keep my routers and bits, and a long tall fence. Sounds simple but something I've not had. All for the cost of a couple of bits (not the British kind). Thanks for the feedback guys.
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Hi Jim,

It sounds as if congratulations are in order on your new acquisition. Particularly so because you know several ways in which it surpasses where you were before.

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I bought it, and no regrets. This will be the beginning of a whole new routing experience. No more clamping or nailing the table to a bench, I'll have space to keep my routers and bits, and a long tall fence. Sounds simple but something I've not had. All for the cost of a couple of bits (not the British kind). Thanks for the feedback guys.
Hi Jim - Congratuations on the aquistion - sounds like a good move. I know when I went from a benchtop to that style table, my table usage increased dramatically. Instead of having to set up a benchtop, I could just step over and do the nice little roundovers and such that aren't particularly necessary, but add just a little touch to the projects.
I did notice you mentioned an "off the shelf" plate with a large bit opening you aren't exactly pleased with. Most of those commercial plates either come with or have insert rings available.
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Yes now for the minor tweaks I seem to have to make before I feel something's really mine. Actually I just need to enlarge the dust ports to 4", and put in plastic inserts for the router bit holder. As far as the insert rings John mentioned - it has them, they just seem a little bumpy, not absolutely flat. I guess this won't be a big issue unless I'm doing a real short piece, which is not safe to do anyway.
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As far as the insert rings John mentioned - it has them, they just seem a little bumpy, not absolutely flat. .
Bang the down with a chunk of wood. They just may need setting into place.

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