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Hey Guys,

I recently registered since I am researching a router table cabinet. I am 99% settled on using the Incra Mast-R-Lift II as my lift (already supports my rigid router and I like the features).

I am trying to decide right now if I want to integrate the Incra fence system into my table, or just make something really simple for now and possibly upgrade later... maybe even support the "original" incra jig.


What's confused me now is the "Wonderfence". their website tells absolutely nothing about the product, it appears to be all the same information as the page on the LS Super System, same thumbnails and info... I am so confused! What is the wonderfence... is it a replacement for the LS system or an upgrade?


Also, will the Kreg undermount router plate tabs work with the Mast-R-Lift II?

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What's confused me now is the "Wonderfence". their website tells absolutely nothing about the product, it appears to be all the same information as the page on the LS Super System, same thumbnails and info... I am so confused! What is the wonderfence... is it a replacement for the LS system or an upgrade?

Thanks
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The short answer is "Yes" and more. You can buy it with the LS, upgrade if you bought the LS without it, use it stand alone, or upgrade older incra systems!

INCRA Precision Fence :: Router Table Fence :: INCRA Wonder Fence
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The incra line is well spoken of here. I have an older system I bought for 100 usd I use it as a positioner only. Because I don't do box joints or dovetail joints on a router table. But their system does not work well when making moulding or large capacity bits. So I have several fences for 1 table since one fence does not do it all. IMHO decide what do you want to do on a RT and then choose the best fence for that purpose. Check out the sticky in table mounted routing http://www.routerforums.com/table-mo...ter-table.html
The tour will give you plenty of ideas on what kinda table and fence you want

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Ryan, it's best to watch the demo and the links are on the page that Duane kindly linked.

Basically if you don't have a Gripper and you need to fully profile any piece you'll want to get a fence that can be offset.

Incidentally, I went the whole hog and imported the metric LS Super System and the Table Saw equivalent.

Of course you could just make your own as you suggested but sometimes there are people out there that simply make superb stuff and INCRA are just that.

Whilst you are dipping into the war chest, perhaps consider a Remote Readout like this one.
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Ryan,

I have the complete incra system but im using the Incra Mast-R-Lift the system really cant be beat but one thing you should know about the lift that i was disapointed about
the metal plates are steel and quickly tarnish this is about the only down side to this incra lift. if iI had to do it over again i would go with the same style lift just not the incra
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Ryan, you can spend as much as you like on "whistles and bells" accessories; this is a matter of choice. You can also use the "keep it simple" methods and create the same quality projects for a whole lot less money. Which way you go is up to you and you are the one who must be comfortable with your choices. Before you spend your money I suggest you take the time to read the sticky threads. The better informed you are the happier you will be with your decision.

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Ryan:

I have the full Wonderfence setup; along with the TS (Tablesaw) / LS (Leading Screw) system. Incra takes a different approach to Table Saw & Router Table fences than just about everyone else; so, I can appreciate getting lost in their marketing and their website.

The short version of Incra-lore is the Leading Screw (LS) concept micro-adjusts the Positioner, which is attached to either a TS (Table Saw) fence or a 'Pro II' (straight Router fence). The Positioner can be set to be repeatably dead-accurate and deflection-less. So, we know the Positioner is part of every system. The Wonderfence (WF- a split fence system) is then attached to the 'Pro II' fence. The WF straddles the router bit, and provides several capabilities.
Unfortunately, I have to run, so I'll continue this later.
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Hi Ryan,
I am not sure that I can add much to what has been said, but since I too have the complete Incra LS system. Also I have the Mast R Lift included in the set up. The Wonder fence, as you may well understand, is attached to the fence that is associated with the TS application. It can be set with the off set feature and opened wide to be used with large diameter bits. The dovetail jig works as advertised with one small exception. This is not really an exception but a point not covered very well with the instructional DVD that comes with the jig. I have talked about this on this forum and have received an array of different opinions on the point that I am referring. The issue is the importance and perhaps safe to say rather difficult to get the set up perfectly centered. This is a just a matter of understanding the issue and what to do if you make your dovetail or box joints cut without being perfectly centered. Like so many things, it's a simple issue once you get the gist of what is going on. But, for now, all that I want to say to you is that in my opionion if you go all the way and get the full blown system, you will not be disappointed with it. I am extremely happy with mine. Also, after you get it and start to use it, the help that you can get is virtailly unlimited thanks to this forum and Mark Mueller who is the tech for for Incra, don't be afraid to contact him by either phone, or e-mail. If you have more specific questions, just ask, you will get plenty of help, guess I said that.

Good Luck with your decision,

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