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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-15-2014, 03:25 PM Thread Starter
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I have a router table I am converting over to an Incra Jig setup and I need to remove the Makita router from the old Jessum Master Lift table insert so as to install the router in the Incra jig table insert. Well the Jessum insert has been holding that old Makita router since 1997. The screws holding the router lift mechanism to the Jessum insert have an Allen wrench type of head. I have removed all but two of the screws (with some difficulty, stuck fast). I have used WD40 on them and a Benzomatic torch to no avail in removing them. I drilled a hole in an oak board to stick the end of the Allen wrench into to gain leverage on while I tried turning after heating and WD40, but the Allen wrench just twisted. Neither screw budged. Any thoughts out there short of drilling out the screws? I would like to retain the old Jessum insert for possible future use. i am dead in the water here with my Incra future.
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Sometimes tapping the screw after spraying it with WD 40 will help break the hold. This is easy on cap screws, but not so much on allen screws.

If you have an allen wrench you can sacrifice, you can cut the "L" part off, so you have a straight piece. Then put it in the screw and gently tap it as you spray the WD 40. Then try to work the screw out.

If you have to cut an allen wrench, a cut off wheel works best.

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I really don't think that WD-40 will work to well. Try Liquid Wrench. There are very new products out that may help with corroded threads.

Good Luck with you table
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post #4 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-16-2014, 09:46 AM
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Hi Don
If you can get at it a straight section of Allen wrench in a battery powered impact should loosen it. I have several 18 volt Makitas and they will loosen some really stubborn items.
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I have had more success with liquid wrench than wd 40 on rusted screws.
Apply the liquid wrench, tap, reapply and let it sit over night.
Cutting a allen wrench and using it with a battery powered tool should remove it.
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Depending on the material to which your router is mounted, you might try heating the screws a bit more than last time and then immediately douse the heated screw with cold water until completely cooled off. THEN try your allen key. It should be very loose after this treatment. You can always get new screws. I have used this methode in many applications with great success.
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Thanks Reg for responding for a followup. I tried all the methods that were offered but none worked. I used penetrating oil and PB overnight but no luck. I tried putting the allen wrench in the screw head and wacking the wrench but it did not budge. At this point I was really frustrated. I tried drilling out one of the screws but the screw material was too hard for my drill bit. So I remembered I had some easy out bits and I was able to drill out the screw heads very easily. Those easy outs must be made of some very hard steel. So at this point one might think I am on my way toward getting this Makita 3216c router into its new home in my new Incra Jig router table. Wrong. I was trying to put this Makita router into the Incra/Jessum router lift mechanism and soon realized it would not fit. I called the Incra folks (very nice people) and was told that the Makita I had the router base designed into the router motor and the Incra/Jessum lift would only work with routers that had a detachable base and was on their list of routers suitable for that lift. So I ordered the PC 7518 router motor only and it fit right in. So had I made a call to Incra right off the bat I would have avoided trying to get the Makita out of the old Jessum lift. Now I am up and running with the Incra jig and off to new adventures. I want to thank all of you that responded and to Reg who wondered how things came out.

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I was so curious I was about to loose sleep!!!
Thank you for your speedy response. It was a puzzle to know why a router might become stuck so solid that you had to drill out the screws. Was it in a damp environment, or was it a metal to metal reaction? Anyway, I'm glad you solved your problem and we thank you for the tip on "BP Blaster". I will look for that. Happy Routering!!

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PB Blaster works wonders. They do make extractors for Allen screws and they have saved my butt on a couple of occasions.

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