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I think I've settled on the JessEm Router-R-Lift II and looking for advice on which of these 2 1/4 HP routers would you choose for this lift and why.

Makita 1101 - 2 1/4 HP - Amazon.com: Makita RF1101 2-1/4-Horsepower Variable Speed Router: Home Improvement

Hitachi M12VC - 2 1/4 HP - Amazon.com: Hitachi M12VC 2-1/4-Horsepower Variable-Speed Router: Home Improvement

Bosch 1617 - 2 1/4 HP - Amazon.com: Bosch 1617EVS 2-1/4 HP Variable-Speed Router: Home Improvement

Thank you in advance for your advice.
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Hi Gareth, that is a tricky question.

All the routers on your short list are good quality routers that should serve you for many years.

That is like asking, "I want a mid size sedan, should I buy a Ford, a Chevvy or a Toyota"

I am happy with my Makitas and others are happy with Bosch and Hitachi.

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I agree with James, they are all good. I have the Hitachi. The only other thing you may want to think about is how often you may need to change speed and how hard it will be to get at. PC makes some single speed motors that can be coupled with an external speed control.

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Chuck makes a good point. I really like my 1617, but the speed control is not so easy to reach under the table, inside a dust collection box. An external speed control would be nice, but doesn't work with routers that have their own electronic speed control.
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I have to ask: Why the lift? Seems a very expensive item when first starting out.
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Hi Gareth, that is a tricky question.

All the routers on your short list are good quality routers that should serve you for many years.

That is like asking, "I want a mid size sedan, should I buy a Ford, a Chevvy or a Toyota"

I am happy with my Makitas and others are happy with Bosch and Hitachi.

PS, I am also happy with my Toyota,,,,,,,,VBG
I hear you James. I suppose I was hoping to hear how router x performed very well or how router x performed better than y in someone's shop. No biggy really. I'll likely go with the Bosch, though the $100 price tag on the Hitachi is very appealing.
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I agree with James, they are all good. I have the Hitachi. The only other thing you may want to think about is how often you may need to change speed and how hard it will be to get at. PC makes some single speed motors that can be coupled with an external speed control.
Have you experienced any drawbacks with the Hitachi? It's $119.95 on Amazon right now, which seems like a very good deal for the specs, which makes it more susceptible to at least a second look. Since I posted this thread I've looked a bit more at the Bosch as well.
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Chuck makes a good point. I really like my 1617, but the speed control is not so easy to reach under the table, inside a dust collection box. An external speed control would be nice, but doesn't work with routers that have their own electronic speed control.
Tom - that is very helpful information to know. I really like the 1617 and the reviews overall are very good. Some have mentioned a switch issue but in a table with a table mounted switch wearing out the switch could be avoided. Initially I figured the speed control would be easy enough reach and not needed to change much. I'll look at this more closely now. Thanks.
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I have to ask: Why the lift? Seems a very expensive item when first starting out.
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Ralph - I've been woodworking my whole life. This will be my first router table but not first router.

As for the lift, I want something that is solid and will last. I like the smooth operation of the lift. I've used plunge routers and have been less impressed with their operation.

Generally, I take care of my tools and hold on to them forever. I figure if I get a good one, then I'm done messing around and can get to work making chips. In the case of the router table, I have been tempted to pick up the Grizzly table, either through them or another vendor who sells essentially the same table. But after I think about it, I might was well get something that I know will last, because a router table is not an "if" sort of tool for me. I will use it.

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Have you experienced any drawbacks with the Hitachi? It's $119.95 on Amazon right now, which seems like a very good deal for the specs, which makes it more susceptible to at least a second look. Since I posted this thread I've looked a bit more at the Bosch as well.
No drawbacks so far. It is nice and smooth. I am not using it in a table. I have an M12V and an M12V2. I have been using the M12V in a table and am going to put the M12V2 in instead as it is a little more table friendly. With those I pop the plate out of the table to change bits and make major adjustments and speed change if necessary.

I like the M12VC for handheld jobs. It has a nice center of gravity and feels good in my hands. The other thing I like about the Hitachis, after function and price, is the 5 year warranty.

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