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I ran out of adjustment while routing some stock for doors with glass panels. To cut the extended tenons, I needed to lower the Freud cutter to near table height. I couldn't do it. Even after repositioning the bit to its deepest (lowest) position in the collet, I still needed to lower the bit a little more.

This is the second time I have got myself into a bind. The first time, I couldn't set up the Freud raised panel cutter because the hole in the Rockler Group A plate isn't large enough for the bit to fit through.

As a workaround in both cases above, I attached a temporary table top made of 1/4 inch MDF. I cut the hole large enough so the big bit fit through and actually had to install it from above the table. The mdf "spacer" gave me just enough room to set up the cutter.

This evening, I had to do the same thing. By raising the work surface, I was able to lower the router enough to cut the tenons.

Do I need a lift or maybe a 3 1/4 Triton permanently mounted under the table? I don't have any experience with any type of lifts available on the market. The main question is will a lift allow more travel up and down for router positioning? It doesn't take long for frustration to set in. :-(

I need to come up with a fix because I will be making more raised panels before the year is out.

I am using the Bosch 1617 router.

Your suggestions, tips and advice appreciated.
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Wouldn't the extra 1/2" that a MUSCLECHUCK gives have solved the problem, as well as this the bit doesn't need to be as far into the chuck as it does with a conventional collet chuck.

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Thanks Harry. I bought one a few months back but it provided too much height for the raised panel cutter. In this case, the problem is the hole in the router plate is too small to allow the bit height to be adjusted properly.

The problem today is I couldn't lower the cutter enough. The Bosch has several detents in the base for the router. I had it in the lowest one and still ran out of room on the adjustment knob.
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Here is a picture of the bit I was using. The one on the right is fairly tall and I couldn't lower the router enough to make the cut.
1-11/16'' Freud 99-761 Ogee Rail and Stile Bit Router Bit | Rockler Woodworking & Hardware
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"the problem is the hole in the router plate is too small to allow the bit height to be adjusted properly."

This is but one of several reasons why I always recommend MAKITA routers with their 70mm opening Mike.
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Hey Mike, if you wanna try my Triton out to see if it will work, let me know, your not to far from me, see you on 2cool.

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I ran into this problem making raised panel cuts. I have a 3.5 Hp Triton. I installed a 3/8" shim between my router and the table. This solved my problem. It is also possible to ream the router throat to accept larger diameter bits.

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Hey Mike, if you wanna try my Triton out to see if it will work, let me know, your not to far from me, see you on 2cool.
I might just do that. If so, I will give you a shout. Thanks

To all:
Reading your replies, I think I am misleading everyone. The router insert plate is a Rockler Group A plate. The hole in the center where the plastic inserts mount is not large enough for the Freud raised panel bit to fit through. The bits' diameter is larger by 1/4 inch or more so to resolve the issue, I need a plate with a bigger hole.

Rockler Group A Plate - 3 1/4 inch bit opening

Freud Raised Panel Cutter - 3 1/2 inch diameter

UGH!

The other problem is I can't lower the rail and stile bit enough to use it because it is too tall and I don't have enough adjustment with the fixed base to lower it. :-(

I like the idea of the 3/8 inch shim. That would be about the same as the temporary table I added to my table.

Thanks for all advice and suggestions.
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I just bought a second plate and raised the cutter up through the plate. Instant zero clearance plate....

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I just bought a second plate and raised the cutter up through the plate. Instant zero clearance plate....
Which plate, James?
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