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NO! The only way you can is to use a template bushing in your table and a template attached to your work piece.
I thought I read several answers related to "no".
There must be 2 Ferdanitos here, one has bearings and asks about pins and the other has not bearings.
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I wish you people read before answering, let me quote myself. "I have a router table but I don't have bits with a bearing, can I do fenceless routing with regular bits?"
The answer is "no" unless you want to hurt yourself
If you don't have a bit with a bearing, or you don't have a fence, you have no way of stopping the bit from plunging too far into the wood.

So, either the bearing or the fence will prevent the wood from traveling too far into the bit.
Even a template wont help because then the bit will chew into both the template and the work piece.

If you don't have a fence (I'm presuming you don't or you wouldn't ask), take a piece of wood, a 2x4 or something like that. Hog out a piece that will slide over the bit without touching it. Clamp it to your router table and use that as a fence.

So, to recap "NO".
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Yes Fernandito you can; you must use guide bushings with a template. There is no safe way to use your router without either the bearings on the bit or guide bushings free hand. You can buy bearings for very little money that mount on the bit below the cutter. You can switch these to different bits.
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Good!, first person that actually read what I wrote but I don't understand.... When you do routing with a regular router (no table) and a bit with no bearing, the end of the bit prevents from plunging too far into the Wood, am I right so far?.
Why can't I use that same bit in a router table ?, that same end of the bit will serve the same purpose, won't it?
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Good!, first person that actually read what I wrote but I don't understand.... When you do routing with a regular router (no table) and a bit with no bearing, the end of the bit prevents from plunging too far into the Wood, am I right so far?.
Why can't I use that same bit in a router table ?, that same end of the bit will serve the same purpose, won't it?
sigh... thanks all the same
Use a bit with a bearing or a fence. What part of that is too hard to understand?

Just curious.

BTW, There are a lot of folks on this form with many years of routing experience. I would suggest you listen to them.

Good luck.
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Fernandito, you have very little control when routing free hand or with a regular bit in the table. For accuracy you need something to guide the wood or router bit. It is also unsafe to have the bit exposed with no guard above it to prevent you from losing a finger or worse. Without the control surface to guide you it is very easy for the wood to catch and shoot off at any angle. When this happens it is too fast to react; you can see photos of some of the injuries members got in our safety section.

We want you to be safe and get great results. Please look at our guide bushing and templates section here:
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In the threads marked "Sticky" at the top you will find links to tutorials that show you how do different jobs safely.

Here are photos of some of the bit guards you can make to use on your router table.
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I have come to two conclusions:
1. I have to get me one of those bits with a Bering
2. This place is full of nice and helpfull folks

thank you all
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Depending on what kind of project you are working on, you will want to buy a bit long enough to cut what want, but not necessarily much longer than that. Also, if you are going to use a pattern for the bearing to ride against, will you use it on the top or bottom of your work piece. That determines whether you want a top or bottom mounted bearing.

If you are routing small pieces (4-5 inches (100-125mm), you might wish to use a wood vise to hold the piece instead of your fingers. Much better to chew up the vise than your fingers. The picture will also give you an idea of what the Bearing does.
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I think Fernando could mean. Use the smooth upper part of the bit against the template ??? Oldrusty
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