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I am new here. Just bought a Bosch 1617evspk and 1171 table. I am building a built in cabinet for my seemingly never ending basement finishing project.

I decided I wanted to make some raised panel doors. When I went to buy the router, they had 2 different raised panel bits. A Skil raised panel bit set that was very inexpensive and an expensive rail and stile and raised panel bit for bosch.

Since I was getting a bosech router, and because the Skil bit set looked a bit cheap, I went with the bosch bits.

Here is my concern. The bosch panel bit is 3.5 inches in diameter. I asked the guy at the tool counter if this router would swing it. He said sure as long as you run it slow and do it little by little and don't try and cut it in one pass.

I am still a bit concerned after looking at the sheer diameter of the bit. So I guess my questions is, will this router swing and effectively swing this bit and work? Or should i go back and get the cheaper, and mch small Skil bit?
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Hi kylawyer

The guy behind the counter was telling you the truth , you will need to take small cuts (3 most of the time) and turn the speed down on the router to run the BIG bits, that's true for most bits over 2 1/2" you'er pulling off alot of wood ..

Now that you have the Bosch bits keep them I'm sure you will like them.

Here's link you may want to check out if you are making doors and panels

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I am new here. Just bought a Bosch 1617evspk and 1171 table. I am building a built in cabinet for my seemingly never ending basement finishing project.

I decided I wanted to make some raised panel doors. When I went to buy the router, they had 2 different raised panel bits. A Skil raised panel bit set that was very inexpensive and an expensive rail and stile and raised panel bit for bosch.

Since I was getting a bosech router, and because the Skil bit set looked a bit cheap, I went with the bosch bits.

Here is my concern. The bosch panel bit is 3.5 inches in diameter. I asked the guy at the tool counter if this router would swing it. He said sure as long as you run it slow and do it little by little and don't try and cut it in one pass.

I am still a bit concerned after looking at the sheer diameter of the bit. So I guess my questions is, will this router swing and effectively swing this bit and work? Or should i go back and get the cheaper, and mch small Skil bit?



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Hi: KYLAWYER welcome to the forum. The bosch bit will do fine, if you take it in three or more passes. The router should be slowed down to 10,000-12,000 rpm. you should also use a push stick that is able to also hold the stock down to the table. I have made some raised panels that required three passes. I usually do two passes with a fairly heavy cut and leave the last pass as a very light cut, it cleans up real well.
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I have my router table set up, have 3 bits for making panel doors. I've made sample cuts with each bit. My confusion is this: Between the rails and the stiles - do you use both when making raised panels. Or just one to mate with the machine panel. I can see where you could make a frame of four boards milled with a stile and mitre the corners and that would hold the panel. But is there a way to make a square frame so I could use a raised panel.

Looking for help or if someone has a sketch of these two types of panel doors, mitred and squared. The kit I bought for making paneled doors, contained 3 bits, stile, rail and panel. So do I use all three?
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Hi Andy

The short answer would be yes, you will need to use all 3 bits that are in the" set "
Start with the cope bit then the bead bit then the panel bit..
Make a test door b/4 you use the good stock..
The cope bit is the one with the bearing in the middle of the bit and is use it on the end grain of the boards.
Almost all the sets come with bearning use them to setup the bits...

http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops...ges/video.html

http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/departments.asp?dept=4

http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops.../instruct.html

http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops.../ec080123.html



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Maybe the chart below will help with choosing the correct speed for a bit size. You can print it and hang on the wall by your bench.
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When you say three passes do you move the fence or raise the router bit in order to not bite into too much wood at one time?
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If I have a back cutter on my large panel bit how do you make multiple passes with the router? Do you raise the bit on the router each time or do you move the fence a little each time until you reach the full cut
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Hi Breck

Just move the fence, once the bit is set to the right height DON't move it up or down..some of the better panel bits come with 2 bearings to help with that job.

But the safe way and easy way to make panels is to use Vert. bits if all the sides of the panels are straight edge, if not use the standard panel bit with a 1/2 fence so you can do all the dips and doodles easy..
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops...ter_bits2.html


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If I have a back cutter on my large panel bit how do you make multiple passes with the router? Do you raise the bit on the router each time or do you move the fence a little each time until you reach the full cut
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