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Ozer finished editing the Router video! (crowd goes wild with cheers and confetti).
Tomorrow was supposed to be lumber buying day, but we are snowed in, so hopefully Monday/Tuesday.
I allowed for snow days and sick days on my Gantt chart...

But this is my Router and Rockler table that got me into this mess.
And will hopefully help get me out of it...
Box joints away!!!!!
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Looking Sharp Moz, that OZer of yours seems like a pretty handy fella! I don't think that I'd use that step drill bit near the end of the video. I'm gonna bet it's not build to run at those RPMs.
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Is he using a steady cam? Those are some pretty nice tracking shots. Pulling the camera is so much better looking than zooming. Nice work. What is he using for lighting? I made non theatrical 16mm films back in the late 60s (NOT porn!!), and lighting was a huge problem. Today I can see you could use daylight balanced LEDs and make your own instruments for practically nothing. Video likes high key lighting for the most part. Low ratios so the blacks don't fall apart. Its fun to be able to support your efforts.
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LOL! I told Ozer he was "Busted!" on the step-bit.
That is for my drill press, to help me mount British conical bee escapes in the hive roofs.
I noticed when he showed me the final cut, and didn't say anything, but Ozer fessed up after I read Ratbob's comment to him. He knew he was sneaking some drill press bits in there, but didn't think anyone would really notice...
Not with this crowd!!!
He is using some lighting system we got him for Christmas along with his green screen and suit. I think they are the daylight balanced LED lamps you are talking about, in fabric boxes on pole stands. I know one of them is called a 'hair light' with a specific shade over the front to diffuse light on top of the head...
Other than that, I'm light on the photography part.
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@Moz You might want to share this with Oz, I think he'll appreciate it.

In the old days, I had three 1000 watt Cinequeen quartz lights with barn doors and steel stands. Plus a lot of smaller lights for fill and kickers (back or hair light). It was a pain in the rear to get the right balance and worse if you had a mix of daylight to deal with.

Video needs so little light by comparison that you can use daylight balanced lights on everything. Its a pleasure now. Just need enough light to avoid dropping frames. Green screen is a real joy, we had nothing like it back in my film days. Editing was a messy affair (I had a moviola in my bedroom) with thousands of feet of work print hanging down in bins. Same with audio tracks. I once cut the A and B roll negatives myself, and decided never to do that again. Video is so cool with the high def and the whole thing happens in an Apple laptop.

A family member works as a grip (mostly handles lighting) on TV series. They even use the cheap worklights you can get at HD. I've thought you could just set up a box filled with LED light bulbs, put a yoke on the box to put it on a stand and use that.

One thing I bet hasn't changed, that's getting the money to produce the end result.
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@Moz Got curious about lighting instruments and found this 16 lamp compact studio light. Replace the curly bulbs with 60 watt GE bulbs (These are like tubes about 1.25 inches in diameter) that are small and bright and cheap. For $160 bucks, this is a very doable item, and it has a soft box available! I wanna be young again!

I am curious about what Oz's plan is for making money with video.
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This is Ozer's set up:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o00_s00

The cats love to help when he's filming. So he incorporates them into his vids as 'assistants.'

This is his passion and amusement, as woodworking and making hives is now mine. I asked him his plan, just to enjoy that momentary 'deer in the headlights,' look, and then his slow reply. "...None, I guess. I just like making vids." Since PewDiePie is the undisputed King of YouTube, Ozer is happy with the creative process, and not really seeking fame and fortune.

Costs are not prohibitively expensive, TIME is far more valuable, as the editing process can be grueling when you DIY. He will easily spend a day just to make a 3 minute or less vid.
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3 minutes per day of editing is pretty good. He must be fussy. When I learned editing, it began with watching an editor at DesiLou cut a 10 minute reel of Mission Impossible. Better than months at film school. I'd been a still photographer for years, so I knew lighting already.

I think PR and fundraising are decent areas for video makers to make money in. There are other specialized areas as well. Really understanding YouTube is a definite plus. Distribution is always the hardest part, maybe harder than getting the money. I did a lot of PSAs on 16mm. One for the Clean Air Council in LA ran for 3-4 years on an Los Angeles TV station. Didn't make much money, but it sure gave me a nice reference. However, after 5 years, ending with a 77 minute film for Kawsaki Motors, I realized the work was really too demanding physically. 12 hour days were the short days.

Video is the way to communicate these days, so I wonder if he'd be interested in looking at producing content for companies? I have a Nikon that shoots hi res video and am thinking about producing some informational short videos for our website and to place on sites our clients frequent. Oz could possibly be doing that and doing what he loves for a pretty good living. I'd be happy to have a conversation with him about that. Don't need to make any money on it, but one thing about us older guys is that we like to pass along what we know about, and for me, that is the marketing of services. My personal cell number is at the bottom of all pages on my business website, Lecoq Practice Development. Have him introduce himself.

I am a consultant specialized in vision care, but I teach marketing. But its time to pass on as much help as I can give.
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