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Hello, new to the forums. I have been wood working for many years but just as a part time hobby. Well I am upgrading my router table. I bought a Woodpecker MDF table 24x32. Now I am looking for either an insert plate or lift. I have a PC 690 router and my budget isn't real big.

I don't use my router table very much...maybe 2-3 times a month. I may go two weeks with out getting in my shop so my use will not be very much.

I think I have it narrowed down to to options:

The JessEm Rout R Lift II with the Phenolic plate. Im not real sure about the Phenolic plate and staying flat.

Or

Woodpeckers 3/8 " Alum plate only...no lift....I like the idea of the stiffness of alum....but would be without the lifting part.

Is the Phenolic base warp or sag free ?
No more than I use it I could probably get by without the lift feature.

Phenolic with lift ?
or
Alum no lift ?

Any suggestions or insight ?

Thanks for your time,
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phenolic does have a tendency to sag. Some folk that have phenolic plates dont screw the plate down, and lift the router/ plate out and rest it on the table when not in use.
If I were starting from scratch, I would buy a metal plate.
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Welcome to the shop, Mike. There are lifts with aluminum plates - JessEm Mast-R-Lift II is an example. I have one and love it. Unfortunately, it's pretty pricey. Double unfortunately, I don't think your PC690 is adjustable from below (above, when mounted in an RT) so it would work ok with the aluminum plate but height adjustment is going to be harder. I agree with bob, AL is a better material for this application.

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Thanks for the Welcome,
I filled in a little information.

Right now I have my old Ryobi router mounted under my solid table top...no insert....so I have to open the front up, get on my knees and adjust the router depth. I have to unscrew the clamp and remove it to change the bit...its a pain in the knees

So I guess an insert would be a Upgrade. At least I could lift the insert out and adjust it that way, and change the bits easier

I could swing $180 for the Jessem Phenolic base ( not real sure on Phenolic) but those alum base models are expensive..well worth it I'm sure if you used it everyday.

I like the idea of Alum plate not saging if I let it sit for extended periods of time. Plus I like the price of them better.

I am leaning towards the Woodpecker 3/8 Alum insert plate $100
And that would leave me with a litte extra $ to build a new cabinet.

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Mike; lest we forget!
Bosch 1617EVS with ht. adjustment from the top (through the plate).TTThis base shown is the fixed base that comes with the 1617EVS.
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Even better is the 1617EVSPK which includes the plunge base as well.
Those are Cdn prices...yours will be waaay less.
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Well....looks like I'm out of the loop on new routers a bit. That looks interesting.
I am going to look at them a little more

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Eventually you'll need a plunge router. Lots of jobs are much easier and safer using one.

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
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Hello, new to the forums. I have been wood working for many years but just as a part time hobby. Well I am upgrading my router table. I bought a Woodpecker MDF table 24x32. Now I am looking for either an insert plate or lift. I have a PC 690 router and my budget isn't real big.

I don't use my router table very much...maybe 2-3 times a month. I may go two weeks with out getting in my shop so my use will not be very much.

I think I have it narrowed down to to options:

The JessEm Rout R Lift II with the Phenolic plate. Im not real sure about the Phenolic plate and staying flat.

Or

Woodpeckers 3/8 " Alum plate only...no lift....I like the idea of the stiffness of alum....but would be without the lifting part.

Is the Phenolic base warp or sag free ?
No more than I use it I could probably get by without the lift feature.

Phenolic with lift ?
or
Alum no lift ?

Any suggestions or insight ?

Thanks for your time,
Mike
Mike I think this lift is the best buy on the market, it is really built stout and has a thick Aluminum plate and top table adjustment.
Rockler Aluminum Router Lift FX | Rockler Woodworking and Hardware

I have the Master Lift II with the side crank height adjustment and really like it with my PC 3hp motor.
Also have a MLCS cast iron sliding table and I am going to put the Rockler lift on that.

Herb

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That Rockler is made by Jessem...isn't it ?

Looks like a nice unit but it won't fit in my table. I just got a Woodpeckers MDF router table with a 9 1/4 x 11 3/4 opening.


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Yea...I'm sure you will :-)

I need to be content with what I have...and thats hard to do.

I do have both housings for my PC router
Solid mount that will go on my plate and the plunge base that I can use for hand use.

On a side note....I started taking my old router table apart and took my motor and base off. I started cleaning up my motor and looked at the motor closer. Its a Bosch 1604 motor dated 1984. I think I have gotten my moneys worth out of this little guy...and its still working.
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