The site does not list sizes for any of the guide bushings. Bosch, DeWalt, Porter Cable, Milwaukee and Hitachi do not make the 40 mm or other metric guides.(per their web sites) I am going to check a local tool shop with the part number you listed to see if they have it available.

 

Hi Harry,

Thanks, for the price listed, I didn't pass it up. Will let ya know when I receive it.

Mike, I agree the size isn't listed nor posted on the web site. I think, (don't quote me), if you know the part #, ie., should be listed in the manual. You shouldn't have a problem finding said piece. Btw, the 40mm guide isn't listed on Makita's USA site either.

Fellow members have always led me to believe that 40mm template guides were not available in the USA, the Makita 3612C in particular. I, like most people only tend to read instruction books when things get desperate! I was just reading the booklet that came with my 3612C several years ago and see that a 40mm guide part number 164472-4 is an accessory. I then entered that number into a Google search and was surprised at what came up, including this US site.

http://www.homelumbercom.com/prodsp....com/prodspec.asp?key=product&table=Product&template=prodspec.asp&value=1644724

Give it a try, for other brands too.

 

O Great Harry

Now I need to buy a Makita router just to use a 40mm mickey mouse guide NOT

But I'm sure the members that have a Makita router will buy one.. great find you old fart , you may want to edit the picture to show the size. ID,OD,and the height...

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Fellow members have always led me to believe that 40mm template guides were not available in the USA, the Makita 3612C in particular. I, like most people only tend to read instruction books when things get desperate! I was just reading the booklet that came with my 3612C several years ago and see that a 40mm guide part number 164472-4 is an accessory. I then entered that number into a Google search and was surprised at what came up, including this US site.

http://www.homelumbercom.com/prodsp....com/prodspec.asp?key=product&table=Product&template=prodspec.asp&value=1644724

Give it a try, for other brands too.

 

Makita's web site list 164472-4 as a 1 37/64" guide.

Ray H

 

Hi Bj,

In defense to Harry, the pic posted is directly from the site. As Mike pointed out, there's no listing of actual size.

Harry did make me dig out my manuals, thankfully I kept both. The info, listed is NOT in the newer manuals. It only states to contact your local Makita service center. Also, in the older manuals, it lists the guide sizes in metric first then in inch size.

If you'd like I can try to scan the page(s) from my manual & try to post them.

 

HI Ken

No big deal,, I was just poking Metric Harry just a little bit, he is stuck in the metric world and would like the rest of the world to switch over to it and drive on the wrong side of the road.. LOL


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Hi Bj,

LOL, I know, you and Harry like to play "ping pong" with each other here on the forums. ( I just sit on the sidelines watchin, I think ya both are tied ) I was only trying to clear the info for others who don't know.

For others who do have the 3612C. I did do some searching thru the USA Makita site. The web site Harry listed IS upon their listings.

 

The manual that came with my Hitachi M12V2 lists part numbers for imperial and metric guides. Up to and including 40mm. But when I contacted Hitachi they said, not available in the US. Does'nt really matter much though since I have no metric bits. I think that would be harder to figure out the offsets. The larger guides from Oak Park or LeeValley get you pretty close to 40mm. And give the same benefits as far as chip(swarf) removal,and collett clearance.

 

You are so right Rusty, there is nothing magical about a 40mm guide, it is just a very convenient size for all the reasons you stated plus of course it's so easy to calculate off-sets.
Having said that, I do believe that the US will join the rest of the civilised world and become fully metric before I'm finally laid to rest.

 

"Now I need to buy a Makita router just to use a 40mm mickey mouse guide NOT "

Not so Bj, you need to buy one so that you have at least ONE quality router in your collection!, once used, you will never use another, have I ever lied to you?

 

HI Harry

I have one Makita and that's the last one for me..
I'm not a big fan of plastic routers
At one time I liked Makita, I must have 8 or 10 battery drills but all but one is now DEAD , switch errors,batteries always dead,charger dead,etc.

The Makita router I have is a small one that's setup for blind dovetails and that's it...

I do like the routers that can do more than one job that's to say the motor can be taken out and put in a diff. base unlike the plastic case routers..

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I liked my 3612 but as far as routers, no Makita for me. They make one killer Miter box though. Many friends love the Makita's brand new drills too. I prefer the Panasonic drills and sold my Makita router, but the Makita 3612 was a nice router, though dated.

As far as the other Makita routers I have tried I really think the new Craftsman are better than any Makita router they make now. I used to love Hitachi, Makita and DeWalt, but as of late their tools are not as good or maybe it's that the other manufacturers have just stepped it up.

I sold the Makita 3612 the week after I received my Festool routers there just was no comparison.

 

Okay Harry, when you are finally laid to rest should we dig a hole 6 feet by four feet by 5 feet deep or would you like it 1.9 meters by 1.4 meters by 1.8 meters. And during the wake in your honor should we crack open a litre of good bourbon or just a more generous quart?
I will bring a small cake for guests......20 cms X 30cms with a frosting layer 4mm thick. Unfortunately I won't be able to arrend since I am a whole lot of kilometers away from you!!!

 

Hi all

if you go to this Makita site and click on the 'details' they list all the template guides and their sizes (non metric)

ps 1 37/64" = 1.578 125 inch = 40.084 375 millimeter (close enough for me)

http://www.makita.com/en-us/Modules/Accessories/AccessoryDetails.aspx?ID=34499

Going to the local dealer today to see if I can order one.

James

 

PS: part number

PS the part number for the 40mm template guide, in Australia, is 165046-4.

And Makita Aus have them in stock. Ordered mine today...

James

 

"I sold the Makita 3612 the week after I received my Festool routers there just was no comparison."

Could you please give reasons for this statement. By the way, I have NEVER praised the 3612, only the 3612C, the variable speed 2400 watt version.

As a matter of interest Bj, have you or has anyone else broken the light weight plastic case of a Makita router, just interested!

 

HI Harry

No, not the routers but I broke my share of the Makita drills that's looks like the same stuff...

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Birch, a hole 300mm deep by 200mm wide will be just fine for my ashes and a rose bush, however, I wont complain if it's 12" x 8".

 

"I do like the routers that can do more than one job that's to say the motor can be taken out and put in a diff. base unlike the plastic case routers.."

This statement surprises me Bj, in view of the large number of routers that you own, why else would anyone have so many if it wasn't to dedicate each one for a specific task, making for a very speedy project.

 

Hi Harry

I guess it comes down to, I like toys but I like some toys better than some others...

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I guess it comes down to, I like toys but I like some toys better than some others...

LOL, don't we all?

Bj's sentiments about Makita is similar to mine about DeWalt.

 

I guess this is why they make two kinds of ice cream; people have different preferences. Never having broken the casings on my multitude of Makita tools (except the one that fell 12 feet onto concrete) I see no problem with them.
All this is besides the point which was that metric guide bushings are not available in the US. If they can be ordered for only the Makita 3612 and not for the many other routers available that is not a solution.

 

Harry,

We're winning....even the yanks want a metric template guide bushing.



We will have them talking in kilometers (kilometres) next...

James

 

Yes James I've been, and intend to carry on being patient with our American and Canadian cousins. I don't normally dob people in for anything without their permission, however I'm going to suggest that my good friend and fellow forum member Terry Galbraith (Visteonguy) who is a fine metal machinist with access to suitable machine tools might be interested in quoting a price for making 40mm template guides to suit your most popular routers.

 

Harry, this job is one for a CNC lathe. It is the only cost effective method for producing multiple sets of these bushings. I plan on speaking to the Lee Valley rep at the woodworking show next week about producing metric guide bushings. I'm sure Terry could "one off" a set but would not want to produce them in bulk.

 

Rather than "sets" Mike, I was thinking only about the ubiquitous (but not in the USA) 40mm guide. I'm pleased that you are still tuned in to metric, but then, YOU know the benefits.

 

Mine have arrived

Harry,

Just collected mine from Total Tools

Also a 16mm for using as a mortise cutter

James

 

I'm quite certain that these could be fabricated in the US at very low cost, a round disc with a tube spot welded from the rear.
Now no excuses for omitting photo-shoots with all your future projects James, for each project without a photo-shoot, I won't talk to you on Skype for a week!
(I've just had a thought about that, I may be punishing myself rather than you)

 

Yes, Harry,
I thought they were expensive as well.

It is strange that the 16mm guide was nearly twice the cost of the 40mm guide.

Well, at least I have them now.....

I have just ordered in some 18mm plywood, so the project over Christmas / New Year will be a rolling cart for the table saw...

James

 

No way will the US be fully metric before I am laid to rest and I am only 43.

You must know in school we all learn metric. In college it is all that is used in science we just do not use it for goods sold. Our woodworkers and carpenters are the ones who choose not to convert,. If woodworkers really wanted it the companies would change.

So really the US does use metric, again just not on everyday items for weights and measurements. Any high school grad knows metric here in the US. And especially anyone who did any college in any science class.

Heck we learn the Dewey Decimal system for library use in 2ng grade, but I do not see us going to liters from gallons or to Kg from lbs or from Miles per hour to Kilometers per hour, not in my lifetime. Actually, I do not want to. There is something to be said of the perfect Mile distance for a running race.

 

Nick, all the high school students in the US do not learn the metric system; not even the science-oriented students. Even in the college junior level course I teach, I have to teach the basics of the metric system. In the freshman labs I am required to do a lab on the metric system which the U.S. educated students find mystifying, but the foreign educated students do not understand why so much time is wasted on such simple material.

In my earlier post to Harry I did point out that with all the problems with which we are faced, (including those arising in the state in which I now live, Illinois), converting the U.S. to metric will necessarily be of such low priority that it will not be detectable.

 

Say what? I have 6 kids and went to high school myself.

How the heck do you do a science class with no metric system!

Everyone learn Dewey Decimal for library. If they do not get them in another school!

What state do you live in? I see it says IL, but I have lived here my entire life in three school districts and all my kids learned metric and for science how can you not.

Well maybe I was lucky because my school districts teach metric, my daughters 8th grade math is full of it and even my 6th grade came home with meters vs tons just the other day. He just asked me what a liter was not two weeks ago. What the heck is going on that all the schools are different?

I went to community college 2 years and you were expected to know metric already. I did. I mean I lived here in IL and obviously learned it.

Maybe I should be glad I live in and grew up in the northern IL suburbs after all.