Chinese 6040 cnc problem

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rhinocue

Discussion Starter · Feb 10, 2018

My cnc has a problem with the "z" axis. When I try to page up or page down to move the spindle, I hear a "brrr" sound and the spindle makes a shaking movement but moves up or down a minute amount.

I am using Mach 3 and previously had all axises moving the correct amount and speed. I went to config and motor tuning and the numbers seemed to be ok. I tried lowering them some on velocity and acceleration but this did not improve the problem. When the power is off, one can use the knob on the stepper motor and move the spindle up and down. I looked at the connect between the stepper motor and the ball screw and it seems to be ok and also, this connector does not turn when you hit page up or page down. Just vibrates a little.

Does anyone have any suggestions? A friend did tell me possibly there is a short on the wires going to the stepper.

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BalloonEngineer

· #2 · Feb 10, 2018 (Edited)

I would say your friend may be correct, could also be a broken wire or loose connection. Are their connectors at each end (near stepper and electronic box)? If so, I would try disconnecting the cable at each end and check for connectivity on each wire using an ohm meter. Depending on the stepper and driver, there could be 4, 6, or 8 wires in the cable.

If the cable is ok, next thing upstream to check is power feed to the stepper driver from power supply.

What stepper driver is being used. There are certain stepper drivers that are frequently used on Chinese CNCs that are notorious for going bad.

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difalkner

· #3 · Feb 10, 2018

Charles, is the X axis cabling close enough to swap connectors with Z? If that's the case you can swap cables and try to jog both. If the problem now moves to X then it's likely your Z controller. If the problem stays with Z then it's likely the stepper motor.

David

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SteveMI

· #4 · Feb 10, 2018 (Edited)

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SteveMI

· #5 · Feb 10, 2018

difalkner said:
Charles, is the X axis cabling close enough to swap connectors with Z? If that's the case you can swap cables and try to jog both. If the problem now moves to X then it's likely your Z controller. If the problem stays with Z then it's likely the stepper motor.
David

If you can swap cables that is easiest. From experience it could be a cold or open solder joint at the connector. That is why you should "disconnecting the cable at each end and check for connectivity on each wire using an ohm meter". Don't assume broken wire, but consider poor solder connection.

Steve.

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Tagwatts

· #6 · Feb 10, 2018

rhinocue,

I have seen two of the same model units are working on. Both had the same issue. In both cases the stepper motor was the problem. Good luck and I hope it is only a small wiring issue.

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rhinocue

Discussion Starter · #7 · Feb 10, 2018

I checked for connectivity on the 4 wires connecting motor to the power box. They are all good. I do not know what stepper driver is being used. Guess I could remove the panel and look to see if there is a name.

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rhinocue

Discussion Starter · #8 · Feb 10, 2018

I took the z cable, after checking for connectivity, and moved it to the y position on the controller. The motor will still not move the fixture up or down. I am thinking it is the stepper motor.

The motor is a 57 two phase, 3A 150N.cm and has 4 wires. I could not find one on Ebay.

Any suggestions for a source for this motor? The company I purchased the cnc is less than helpful for stuff like this.

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difalkner

· #9 · Feb 11, 2018

I got our motors from Stepper Online. Here's a quick search on their site for NEMA 23 motors (I'm assuming yours is that size) - NEMA 23 motors

David

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Walter Van Zile

· #10 · Sep 23, 2018

Sounds like Motor tuning is off on the Z axis, try reseting ,do you have the VFD controlled spindle,i just got a 3040 but i cant make the spindle work

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