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Over the Holiday I got a "bowl and tray kit" from Peachtree as a gift.
Bowl & Tray Kit / Templates plus the two piece football kit.
As fate would have it, wifey asked that I make a last minute gift for a good friend of hers. So I figured I'd give this tray thing a go. Her friend happens to be a HUGE Washington Redskins fan. So I thought I'd do the football tray in Padauk and Tiger maple. (Red and white, Redskins colors) then have Redskins logo done up by someone with a CNC to cover the dip holes. Well, the CNC thing fell thru and I went ahead with just the tray.
A quick couple thoughts on the kit. For what it was, not to shabby. Just 1/2" MDF cut-outs comprise the templates. Very well cut, seemingly sturdy enough for their intended purposes. With the kit you get I think, 10 different styles of trays. Mostly variations on a theme kinda thing. The kit also comes with a bowl bit w/bearing and a router bit extension (1/2" shank). Both bit and extension seemed so/so out of the box, but in the end, both performed surprisingly well. I ran the bit somewhere around 17K rpm and there was NO vibration with the extension and the bit done a good job. Price tag at 100 bucks is a little on the high side for whatcha get, but I guess the sell is that you don't have to bother making your own templates. Which btw, wouldn't be hard to do at all. By itself the bit sells for 35 bucks and the collet extender 1/2" to 1/2" goes for about 22.
The football kit comes with two pieces for 22 bucks. The blank you'd start out with is 12" x 19". Depth of trays is recommended to be somewhere around 2-2 1/4"s.
Getting started, I milled up 3 pieces of Paduak at 1 1/2" and 2 pieces of tiger maple at 3/4". Did the glue up to the desired size 12 x 19. Never gave a thought to take any pictures during the process so maybe we'll do a How-to some other time..
One thing they don't tell ya and you should know is that Man, do you waste alot of wood with these things. Easily 1/2 of what you start out with ends up on the floor or is cut off. So keep that in mind when choosing your wood(s).
The only problem I ran into was that after having hulked out the majority of the wood I got to sanding. I decided to put a top shelf sanding job on this thing. No biggie just time. When the time came for putting on the food safe finish the trouble began. I wiped down the piece, then blew it off thoroughly. Or so I thought. As I began to wipe of the oil, the Paduak began be wipe into (for lack of a better way of putting it) the maple. Giving me red splotches in some spots of soft tiger stripes. Having spoke with Stick about this, I now believe that the problem could have been prevented had I "wiped" the piece down with acetone prior to applying the finish. Simply put, I just didn't clean it down well enough. Ahhhh well, lesson learned :) Interestingly enough, I've done several chess boards with the same combination of wood without issue....
So, anyhooooooooooo. Great weekend project for the new guys/gals or just for something a little different. Lots of options with wood choices. Router work is relatively easy, just take your time and drop the router 1/8-3/16ths a clip. Use a food safe finish. Nice item for craft shows etc..
 

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That's an heirloom.
Thank you Pat... she's not without her warts. The red hugh is the bleed over from the paduak into the maple.. We'll get her cleaned up before she's handed over..
 

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I'd say that's the nicest tray I've ever seen ;)
Gheesh, thanks Rick.. very kind of ya....amazing what a couple of nice pieces of wood can look like.. :)
 
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very nice job Great wood combination,I have build a couple of this they come out really nice, but like you said there is a lot waste, hard to see all good looking wood on the floor
I build my own pattern but i think by the time you buy the bit and extension it is really not a bad deal.
with a great imagination patterns for these bowls could be endless
 
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I like that very much.
 
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Wow! Bill that came out amazing. Great work. I have thought about getting one of those kits.
Thanks for the great write up. Happy New Year!

Ellery Becnel
 

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Bill, you sure selected a couple of dandy pieces of wood. Couldn't have come out nicer,and the color contrast is terrific. I have done some in the past and did the ole forstner bit on the drill press way of removing most of the bulk material inside. Didn't cut down on the waste but was a little faster., and the shavings somewhat larger to clean up, the ones that got away from the DC.

Whom ever got that tray will be very happy,I guarantee.

I understand the inside template with the 3 holes in it. But the other two templates? Is the middle one to stick to the bottom and use a pattern bit to route the outside shape? if so what is the left hand one for, just a marking template?
Good job, Bill, nice shop too,
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Really nice tray. The choice of wood really makes it pop. Add a thumb to Stick's post.
 
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The wood really makes it special. Good choices.
 
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very nice job Great wood combination,I have build a couple of this they come out really nice, but like you said there is a lot waste, hard to see all good looking wood on the floor
I build my own pattern but i think by the time you buy the bit and extension it is really not a bad deal.
with a great imagination patterns for these bowls could be endless
Thanks John... I agree on the wood combination, its what makes it what it is. I don't have much time for these kind of projects any more but I must say, this was kinda fun and certainly something that should be on anyones' bucket list. You're right about the endless possibilities. I wish I could have gotten the Redskins logo for the dip trays...that would have been the icing on the cake on this one..
 

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Wow! Bill that came out amazing. Great work. I have thought about getting one of those kits.
Thanks for the great write up. Happy New Year!

Ellery Becnel
Thank you Ellery!!!! The kit is the way to go. Plenty of options right out of the box. I will try to remember to cobble together a "How to" on the next one for everyone, just so you can see what all is involved. Which honestly isn't too bad.

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Bill, you sure selected a couple of dandy pieces of wood. Couldn't have come out nicer,and the color contrast is terrific. I have done some in the past and did the ole forstner bit on the drill press way of removing most of the bulk material inside. Didn't cut down on the waste but was a little faster., and the shavings somewhat larger to clean up, the ones that got away from the DC.

Whom ever got that tray will be very happy,I guarantee.

I understand the inside template with the 3 holes in it. But the other two templates? Is the middle one to stick to the bottom and use a pattern bit to route the outside shape? if so what is the left hand one for, just a marking template?
Good job, Bill, nice shop too,
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Kind words indeed, thank you Herb!!!

Yep, used the forstner bit as well. Certainly a time saver! I just could not get over how much of the blank ended up on the floor. *L*
It sure looked pretty though, All those red and white shavings :)

The kit came with two templates. The one with the three holes and then the one with the singular hole which is little more than an exterior edge outline. It is suggested that you cut out the bowl on the bandsaw then use a belt sander to round it off. What I did was take and make a 3rd template (the middle oval) used 2 sided duct tape to adhere it to the bottom of the bowl and then use a 2" pattern bit with guide bearing on the router table. The bit came up a 1/4" short so I just filed away what had to be filed and sanded.

I'm still cleaning up the shop from this one....*L*..

Bill
 
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Richard/Charles....

thanks guys...I agree, this was all about the wood chosen...and it turned out nicely...
 

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That's an heirloom.
Well said . . . an heirloom, and an inspiration for the rest of us. I'll put that on on my to-do list. Thanks for sharing.
 
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