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Lowes sells a Delta Fence system as well as the Biesemeyer Fence system. The Delta is 240$ cheaper. What's a trip is the pictures of the systems are the same. Both show Biesemeyer Fences . So Is the Delta Fence OK? Why does it seem people are down on Biesemeyer now?

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I had a a Delta contractors saw with a Bies fence , and it was outstanding . How people are down on it is beyond me ? Cuts to straight , looks to heavy duty ?

I went that route because my friend bought a simular Delta saw but it came with the Delta fence , and it was absolute garbage , and that's actually being kind.
I'm going back 20 years , so maybe the factory fence has improved?
 

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I think the Delta fence is made of lighter gauge stuff than the Bies. It looks similar but I'd carefully check the quality, i.e., square to the table, straight along the fence face, perfect right angle to the miter slot, etc. It's my understanding that Delta's quality went south when Black & Decker bought them. Now that they belong to a Taiwanese firm, maybe things have straightened out but I'd be wary.
 

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Lowes sells a Delta Fence system as well as the Biesemeyer Fence system. The Delta is 240$ cheaper. What's a trip is the pictures of the systems are the same. Both show Biesemeyer Fences . So Is the Delta Fence OK? Why does it seem people are down on Biesemeyer now?

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I bought a Delta T2 fence and installed it on my Craftsman 113. It works very well. If you are going to install it on the Craftsman that you are refurbishing and can get the blade squared then you will be fine with the Delta. If you've got the $ for the Biesemeyer then by all means go for it. I've never used one but it seems to be one of the 'gold' standards. As another poster mentioned Delta quality has gotten sketchy. Also, with Delta being bought and sold the availability of parts can be a problem. I have a Delta Miter Saw which has been a great tool but some parts are no longer made. These days I think twice before buying Delta.
 

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Sorry I didn't realize this was a look alike Bies fence . I had to re read to realize you were talking about a T square fence made by Delta .
I tried to google it but couldn't find one to compare it with.
I'm kinda curious now , as what is the compromise with the lower price ? You would think the Delta has adjustments simular to the Bies to keep it square .
Can you post a pic ?
 

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I have to say it looks quite simular but not as heavy duty . This almost reminds me of the lighter version of the T-fence General has on there cheaper table saws . Wish I could see one in person to see how stiff it is once it's locked down.
I wasn't impressed with it on the General table saws , and went with the Excalibur version instead , which is simular to the Bies
 

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One of the reasons I didn't do with a Biese fence is that it is hard to attach an auxiliary fence for a few operations. I wasn't wild about the Unifence in that respect either but I drilled holes through it to allow the attachment, which I suppose I could do with the Biese also. That's where the Mule really shines. The t channels in it make attaching an auxiliary fence a snap. The one on top of it would make it easy to attach hold downs.
 

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When I bought my Delta T2 I had to re-drill new rail holes so I could attach the rails to my Craftsman 113. The rails were 1 /4" and I went through a few bits. Had to do the drilling on a drill press. Not a 5 minute job.
 

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Note, Delta owns Biesemeyer. The T-2, and now the T-3 are smaller and lighter versions of the Bies fence system. That said, they are still far better than most of the fences out there. I have the T-2 on my table saw, and it is an excellent fence. My table saw is a craftsman 113, and I did have to drill as well. I made a drilling guide, and drilled the new holes on the table saw, rather than in the fence rails using a hand held drill. The two keys is keep the drill bit lubricated with machine oil, and go slow. I ended up only needing to drill 3 holes. Two for the front rail so that I could get the zero on the scale lined up accurate, and one on the back. Using one of the existing holes on the back, I realized that while the rear rail would be a little offset, it wasn't enough to hinder the fence operation on either side of the saw.

My only concern with buying from Delta has nothing to do with the Fences they sell. The issue is that the company was bought a few years ago, and has felt like a sinking ship since then.
 

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I put a Delta T2 fence on an old Rockwell contractor saw. I thought it was fine. There is a picture on a thread on this site of my Rockwell saw with the T2 fence. I own a Unisaw now and have bought an old US made Biesemeyer fence. The Biesemeyer fence is much heavier and the sides are made out of wood. Biesemeyer did make a smaller home version of there standard fence. I have not seen one. I was about a hour late calling about one for sale on Craigslist.
 

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In reading the posts on the forum it sometimes amuses me as to how we all love the latest & greatest offerings of the tool manufacturers. I am as guilty of that as most are. Then I think back to my last visit to Berea KY. which is home to a good many professional woodworkers. I visited a gentleman's shop (name long forgotten) and after an interesting conversation got the invite to tour his work area. He produced outstanding work but lately concentrated on dulcimers of top quality. To my surprise his table saw was an old, old, old Craftsman that when turned on seemed like it was either going to fly apart or literally fly thru the roof.

So the moral of this story is that it is not necessarily the quality of the equipment that produces outstanding work but it is the attention to the quality of the work by the craftsman.

If you are ever in the vicinity of Berea do yourself a favor and visit the guy's & gal's working there. Oh by the way, there is a college there whose curriculum is centered on craftsmanship and a visitors center on the interstate that showcases local work.
 
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