[nightowl]

I recently got introduced to 1/2" Freud router bits...unknowingly I had been using some of there Diablo brand from HD but they are 1/4 shank. I recently tried my hand at making cabinets and upgraded my router to one that accepts 1/2" shank. After an epic fail with some cheap no brand bits I tried Freud rail and stile bit. I placed an order with Amazon earlier this week when one of my bits arrived it was not the red I am use to seeing. Is this bit legit? It came in a white box with with a white sticker on the outside that says the item number (85-362) but no plastic packaging. The bit has Freud on the shank but the cutting edge is not red.

Thanks in advance

 

[hawkeye10]

That is a good question, Henry. I would like to know the answer my self.

 

[Stick486]

does it say where it was made???
Freud is red... Italy..
Gold is Gerber... china..

 

[nightowl]

does it say where it was made???
Freud is red...
Gold is Gerber...

Stick486 - Will it say on the bit somewhere? I think I may have gotten scammed...lol. I looked in my catalog and it does not look right and what is the plastic piece? Attached is what I received. I cant see how this is legit.

 

[nightowl]

That is a good question, Henry. I would like to know the answer my self.

hawkeye10 - I am new to their bits but the packaging alone makes me think I have an issue . Only think I can think is they have not always been red...lol.

 

[hawkeye10]

hawkeye10 - I am new to their bits but the packaging alone makes me think I have an issue . Only think I can think is they have not always been red...lol.

Henry, this is where I buy most of my bits. They carry Whiteside made in the USA and shipping is free. If you want just one bit that is okay.

https://www.hartvilletool.com/

 

[Semipro]

I have never bought a freud bit with that protective coating on it, have other brands that had it.
If it was me I would call freud and ask them, just cause i would want to know. It is possible they are package that way, for a bulk shipment.

 

[Stick486]

time to call Freud...
I have bought 1,000's of their bits and have never seen them come packaged that way nor coated...

Freud 85-362 3/8" Radius Solid Surface Round Over Router Bit (1/2" Shank)
https://www.acetool.com/Freud-85-362-Rounding-Over-Bit-p/fre-85-362.htm
https://www.amazon.com/Freud-Radius-Rounding-Shank-85-362/dp/B001J9I7CE

 

[nightowl]

Henry, this is where I buy most of my bits. They carry Whiteside made in the USA and shipping is free. If you want just one bit that is okay.

https://www.hartvilletool.com/

hawkeye10 - Thanks I recently found them as well. I ordered from Amazon because it was Prime shipping and I wanted to finish the cabinets doors this weekend. I have a few more bits I plan on purchasing so I will keep them in mind when I place my next order. I think I saw a new router fence on there I might want to buy when I was searching the other day. Free shipping is always great!

I have never bought a freud bit with that protective coating on it, have other brands that had it.
If it was me I would call freud and ask them, just cause i would want to know. It is possible they are package that way, for a bulk shipment.

Semipro - I will just send it back tomorrow.

time to call Freud...
I have bought 1,000's of their bits and have never seen them come packaged that way nor coated...

Freud 85-362 3/8" Radius Solid Surface Round Over Router Bit (1/2" Shank)
https://www.acetool.com/Freud-85-362-Rounding-Over-Bit-p/fre-85-362.htm
https://www.amazon.com/Freud-Radius-Rounding-Shank-85-362/dp/B001J9I7CE

Stick486 - I think this may be a case where the picture is not what they are selling...lol. The Amazon link you sent is the exact same place I purchased from on Valentines Day...lol. This will be going back pronto! I want to see the plastic box and the red color...lol. The other two bits I brought from a third party seller on Amazon arrived just fine. They sold me the rail and stile set. I may just stick with them or the Hartvilltool site that has the free shipping .

Thanks everyone for the input! So much for finishing the cabinet doors and drawer fronts tomorrow. I may just use the finger pull door bit and call it a day. I will try to call Freud tomorrow and keep you guys posted on what they say.

 

[Stick486]

FWIW..
there are threads on counterfeit goods here and on other forums that came through Amazon...
seems some of their 3rd party sellers are a bit shady..

http://www.routerforums.com/tools-woodworking/109937-bewaare-garrett-super-scanner-v.html

 

[Semipro]

I have bought freud bits on Amazon they came in the plastic case and red, like you free delivery.

 

[Semipro]

I just check Freud page here a picture of a 85-362 router bit on their page
Look no red paint?

 

[Stick486]

does it say Freud on the shank and place of birth???

 

[nightowl]

FWIW..
there are threads on counterfeit goods here and on other forums that came through Amazon...
seems some of their 3rd party sellers are a bit shady..

http://www.routerforums.com/tools-woodworking/109937-bewaare-garrett-super-scanner-v.html

Stick486 - No that's just sad. Looks like they like the white box too...lol. White box = bad.

 

[DaninVan]

This is deja vu! We had this same discussion over CMT moving some of their production to China.
My main reasons for buying CMT blades and bits (Italy) was their claiming German steel and Carbide in their tools...

 

[TWheels]

@nightowl, When I go to this web site Freud Tools | Products I find the round over bit shown below and the 85-362 is not listed. However, when I search for that number I get this image in the second picture. The Amazon page shows a red bit.Amazon sells both bits, and the pages both show red bits. Why did you choose the 85-362 instead of the less expensive quadra cut 34-124 bit?

 

[Stick486]

This is deja vu! We had this same discussion over CMT moving some of their production to China.
My main reasons for buying CMT blades and bits (Italy) was their claiming German steel and Carbide in their tools...

Amana did the same...

 

[Cherryville Chuck]

Amana did the same...

I would have to say that's correct. Look at the difference between the logos on these two bits.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Amana-54150...739648?hash=item239857b300:g:ZbgAAOSw3v5YtYvX
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Amana-45440...491034?hash=item28510ce39a:g:iXsAAOSwm0Jag4aq

 

[blue_can]

I don't think all their bits are red. I have a Freud adjustable T&G bit set that is not red.

I just looked at their bits online and see several that are not red.

So this may be legitimate.

 

[Job and Knock]

hawkeye10 - I am new to their bits but the packaging alone makes me think I have an issue . Only think I can think is they have not always been red...lol.

I've been using Freud cutters on and off since the early 1980s (about 35 years) and the bits I've bought and seen have almost always been red and come in plastic boxes. Only ever seen a few that had no paint at all (greyish). Over here the manufacturer must put their name and the speed rating on the shank by law - I'd have thought that with it being a CE standard and Freud still being European-owned (they are part of Robt. Bosch, a German firm) that it would have been adopted worldwide. Is it possible that Amazon were out of stock and supplied a substitution?