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Through DoveTail Jig for the Router Table
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For the hand/Plunge Router

See Link below for more details ▼
http://www.routerforums.com/jigs-fixtures/755-has-anyone-ever-tried-make-dovetail-jig-2.html

New link to the Katie jig on the Sommerfeldtools web site.
http://www.mailwareweb.com/sommerfeld/item.asp?n=KJ&f=1
http://www.katiejig.com/

I did rework the Katie Jig because it didn't come with the board clamp that they now show as a add on item.
And the stop blocks on the top, it will now will let you set it up true and sq. for both sides at the same time.

Just a side note*** Look at the router bits in the box you will see a O-Ring under the lock ring, this keeps the lock ring from dropping down if the set screw comes out when you are using the bit,this is just a safe guard, the little set screws have a way of coming out at the wrong time.
( set screws,,,just two treads hold them in place and they strip easy)
And the router bit will nail your jig if it drops. :(

I used 4ea. 3/4" thick x 4" wide x 19" long Poplar milled down to the 2 7/8" wide that's called for the in setup guide, for the Main part and Hard Maple 4/4 for the other parts. (clamps and knobs)
If you need any more info PLEASE just ask . :)

For the T-Bolts I used 5/16-18 sq. nuts and some full thread rod and some super glue (thick type) total cost for the 3 1/4" long T-bolts .20 cents ea.

To do 1/4" or 3/8" stock just flip the slide block over on the top so the stock can be clamped in place without the slide block hanging down over the main block.
You will still have the slide block to keep it true on both side.
Just put a " X " on the inside of stock when you make the pins and pockets and they will all come out right on the button with almost no sanding .

You can also use the straight slots on one side of the jig to make Box Joints on the router table. (small and big ones,(slots) up to 18" long in one setup :)



Bj :)
 

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Thanks Router

Yep they are (MLCS plates) Made one or two like the Katie jig for about 1/4 the price:) and they should work great on large case work like a blanket chess, etc. without buying more parts from the Mfg. like Katie.

Still need to pick up some 3/8" I.D. x 1" springs to hold the clamp bars out a bit but other than that they are done and ready to go to work. :)

see links on page 2 on this forum for the plates.
http://www.routerforums.com/jigs-fixtures/755-has-anyone-ever-tried-make-dovetail-jig-2.html


TWITA = That's What I'm Talkin' About

Bj :)
 

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RO, you got it. :D

MLCS does have the best price on plates, Although I wish they made them slightly deeper for 1" thick woods, if I'm not mistaken their plates only work with 3/4" thick but I could be wrong ??

I'll post some pics tomorrow from my updated BOX JOINT jig.
 

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Hi Router

They will do up to 1 1/8" thick on the small one and up to 1 3/8" on the big one, just need to move the plate and lock it down with the wood screw in the base plate,the pins are always the same it's the pocket that needs to be deeper so it lines up at the corners .
They use a 3/4" dovetail bit and a 3/8" bit for the pockets.

Did you make a new box jig or just a update to the Oak-Park one ?

Bj :)
 

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Hi Router

That's a long jig :) looks like a 24" ?, that's what John need to make his bird houses .
Where did you get it ?, and how much did it set you back if you don't mind telling. :)
1/2" ? or 3/8" max ? 5/8" wide slot ?
Looks like it gets smaller as it goes to the right or is that just the picture ?

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It’s 28” long Bj, I got it back in 92 or 93.
It’s porter cable omni jig plate,( don’t have the jig ) which I think it’s still sold. I saw it lying around in a tool store back in CA and it cost me 40 – 45 I think. The rest as they say is history of box joint projects.
It makes ½” joints but it can cut 1-1/8 thick stock with it.

Looks like it gets smaller as it goes to the right or is that just the picture ?
just a pic :)
 

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Thanks Router for the feed back :)

I like it :), I like it alot I just hate seeing new tools that I want and so does my BOSS :) hahahaha LOL.
I just added a new item for my wish list for Xmax. the BOSS said well maybe she bugs me all year long for a list and when I find one. see always will say maybe hahahahahahaha, can't live with them and you can't live without them ...I just want a yes or no, I hate MAYBE it drives me nuts.... :) :) :)

Anyway thanks for the info and my BOSS said thanks also :)

Bj :)
 

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Well, at least your boss doesn’t think that you’re insane. My boss keeps wanting me to get a table saw, miter saw, jointer and few things and she says she’ll pay for’em but I keep getting routers. It drives her nuts.
When we first started dating many moons ago, on the first date I took her to a tool store and introduced her to DW625 and few cmt router bits.
The first time we went out of town I had a briefcase with me and she though I had something romantic in there and then when I opened it up it was few router magazines and bottle of vodka.:eek:
Poor girl…. ;)
 

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That's the best way to break them in, LOL take them to the HD and Rockler but in turn she takes me to the shoe store and see lets me drive/push the cart at the food store and the sewing supply stores :)

She has put up with me for 44 years and taking them to the wood working stores works for me in that way when I need a item I can send her off to get it ,she knows the store just like I do. :)
Plus when I ask to pickup something for me she gets just what I want without buying all the extra stuff I pickup when I go.
As far romance she gets flowers 4 times a year the norm and night out now and then without a stop at the tool store. :)
She could care less about wood working just like I care less about her sewing and making blankets, last year she made 26 blankets for Xmax. and did a great job on all of them and I made a ton of wood toys.

Have a good weekend
Bj :)
 

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Veeeery interesting.

This is why I shouldn't read posts from either of you guys. I've got a backlog of a dozen or so jigs I want to make and now this... argh!
Coincidentally MLCS happens to be in my area. I have a feeling I'll be talkin to you fellers about these jigs :)

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Well, Bj is the jig MEISTER. :D

But MLCS has greate deal on both dovetail templates so go for it Michael.
Although I would get the 1/2 shank combo.

jigs are like router bits,you can never have enough. :)

This box joint template is going for around $60 these days.
 

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TWITA Router :)

Looks good ,nice job :) do you clamp it to the side of the bench or on top on the bench right next to the edge . ?, do you have " L" brackets on the back side to hold it down to the top ?




Router is still my name said:
Onward with training them. :D

Here's the upgraded version Bj.
 

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I ran the 1/2" shank around in my head for a day or so and decided on the 1/4" because you need to use a 5/8" brass guide with the MLCS jigs and the 1/2" shank would be just a bit to close, it's true that a 1/16" is good as a mile when it comes to routers and bits but because you are using a 3/4" dovetail bit well it's just a bit to tight for me, all it takes is a small bump from the shank/bit and the Alum. jig is junk or the brass guide is junk if the bit breaks the brass lock nut free, hang on for a free ride on the demo router express. :(

Note about the box joint template....
"This box joint template is going for around $60 these days."
Can't find the big/long one I found the (17 slot) 24" for 59.oo bucks with free shipping but no luck yet on the long one (25 slots) .:)

http://www.amazon.com/Porter-Cable-.../ref=sr_1_16/002-0302636-3477615?ie=UTF8&s=hi

So if you have a link PLEASE let me know, thanks
Also can you please check your Template for a part number sometimes PC will stamp a part number in them ,that would help looking for it or a call to the service center if all eles fails,but it would be a high price item from them I'm sure. :)

Bj :)


Router is still my name said:
Well, Bj is the jig MEISTER. :D

But MLCS has greate deal on both dovetail templates so go for it Michael.
Although I would get the 1/2 shank combo.

jigs are like router bits,you can never have enough. :)

This box joint template is going for around $60 these days.
 

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Thank Bj.
I clamp it against to the router table since I need the height for routing 48 inch long. I either use vertical clamping or horizontal. Since it’s 28” long and has 25 slots, it still leaves room on each side for vertical clamping.

Unfortunately there is no stamp/part number on it. I looked just in case. :(

But,I think that Amazon might have the pictures mixed up or using the same picture for both templates.
This is the link for 7123 the 28.5 inch template which is same size as mine and it’s for ½” box joint and yet there are only 17 slots which it does not make sense .

I would call the PC support and not Amazon to confirm!! The one you posted is 5123.

http://www.amazon.com/Porter-Cable-...5/ref=sr_1_2/002-5855099-4488851?ie=UTF8&s=hi

If that’s not it, it could be one of those things PC made a few and then decided that no one will use the full length or something. Just guessing.As I said it is from back in early 90’s.

meanwhile, here's the first jig I ever made back in 91.
 

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Hi Router

Thanks for the info :)

Looks like they don't made the 28" one any more :(

Snapshot ▼ from the PC User Manual. (PDF File)

Bj :)

I didn't know they made a add on fixture so one could made sliding dovetail on the PC jig, learn something new every day . :)

see snapshots below ▼
 

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