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I need every bit of help I can get to keep me off my feet so a remote control on/off button for the dusty would be great. Can anyone tell me where I will find a wiring diagram & parts list for such a contraption.Thanks in advance, James jj777746
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Stick486
get a ready made unit and several transmitters...

https://circuitdigest.com/electronic-circuits/remote-controlled-light-switch
https://www.gearbest.com/smart-home/pp_211636.html
Remote Wireless Control Outlet 2 Pack 2 Outlet Remote - BH9936-2 | Gatecom USA
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@jj77746 - James, not sure what your requirements are, but I've got a 1HP Delta dust collector - runs on 110 (here in Canada). I picked up this set of 3 indoor wireless remote plugs. Came with a remote with three on/off buttons. I plugged one into an outlet and plugged the DC into it. Use the remote to turn the DC on and off from anywhere in the room. I used another one for my overhead dust cleaner. Used the third one for my shop vac. Cost was $20 US and picked it up at Harbor Freight - I know, I know!!! but they work great.

Here's the link.
https://www.harborfreight.com/catal...ed+Weight,f,Sale+Rank,f&q=remote+control+plug

Here's a picture from their website - not a great picture, sorry

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vchiarelli said:
@jj77746 - James, not sure what your requirements are, but I've got a 1HP Delta dust collector - runs on 110 (here in Canada). I picked up this set of 3 indoor wireless remote plugs. Came with a remote with three on/off buttons. I plugged one into an outlet and plugged the DC into it. Use the remote to turn the DC on and off from anywhere in the room. I used another one for my overhead dust cleaner. Used the third one for my shop vac. Cost was $20 US and picked it up at Harbor Freight - I know, I know!!! but they work great.

Here's the link.
https://www.harborfreight.com/catal...ed+Weight,f,Sale+Rank,f&q=remote+control+plug

Here's a picture from their website - not a great picture, sorry
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Much obliged Vince,thank you for the quick advice.I know very little about such electrical things but have learned so much since joining the fantastic Router Forum. James
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DesertRatTom
Looks like a workable fix. The HF DC is 15 amps, this remote is rated 15 amps. My circuits are all on 20 amp breakers. Should work fine. I think I'll get one of these for the shop and for the garage DC units. $20, what's to lose?
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I've been using the Shop Fox system for the past 10+ years, 1 on my DC and 1 on Shop Vac without any issues other than changing batteries.

https://www.woodmagazine.com/woodwo...ust-collection/dust-collector-remote-controls
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Stick486 said:
get a ready made unit and several transmitters...

https://circuitdigest.com/electronic-circuits/remote-controlled-light-switch
https://www.gearbest.com/smart-home/pp_211636.html
Remote Wireless Control Outlet 2 Pack 2 Outlet Remote - BH9936-2 | Gatecom USA
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Thank you Stick,This is gonna be so helpful for me My pain management doctor told me years ago that my condition would get worse as I got older & he sure was right so this is just what I need.Thanks again,really appreciated.James
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hawkeye10
This is what I use for my 1.5 HP dust collector, plus my shop vac, and some lights. I forget how long I have had them but it's been a while.

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Fos...r=8-5&keywords=switch+remote+control+wireless
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Cherryville Chuck
Harry might be of help James. As a former electronics repairman he’s pretty knowledgeablw about such things and also being from Oz he might know what you have available that’s compatible with your power system which is different from ours.
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RainMan 2.0
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=67020&cat=1,42401,72660

James , I went with pretty expensive stuff from LeeValley. It’s RF , but I found something kinda cool recently for my furnace .
I have an additional fan with a hepa filter system tied into my ducting , and I wanted to turn the fan on when the furnace came on .

So I bought this solid state relay that triggers by induction. Once it senses a current draw from the wire passing threw it , it triggers a relay.
So you could have it installed on your table saw etc, and the relay would automatically start your dust collector .
It would require an additional relay , as it’s only rated at a few amps .
Not sure if it’s what your looking at , just thought I’d mention it . It would be automatic,so it wouldn’t involve a remote switch .

https://us.greystoneenergy.com/shop/cs625-high-output-ac-current-sensor/
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RainMan 2.0
But if you want a remote , you can certainly buy cheap wireless remotes on amazon and tie it into a relay. They have onboard relays, but probably not robust enough to take the inrush current , so you’d need an additional one .
I could draw a schematic for you if you decide to go that route
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harrysin
James, the simple reliable method that I use is a "master/slave switch" The machine plugs into one outlet and the current is sensed which powers the second outlet. In other words, when the machine is switched on, the dust collector also comes on. I built a couple of them using the module shown which I bought from Germany, but I have since seen them at Jcar. For my compound mitre saw and saw table I built, designed by a friend of mine, master slave switches which are programmable, the dust collector comes on a few seconds after the machine, set at about 3 seconds and it goes off about 5 seconds after the machine has been turned off to collect remaining dust.

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harrysin said:
James, the simple reliable method that I use is a "master/slave switch" The machine plugs into one outlet and the current is sensed which powers the second outlet. In other words, when the machine is switched on, the dust collector also comes on. I built a couple of them using the module shown which I bought from Germany, but I have since seen them at Jcar. .
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I bought the Kemo master/slave switch from jaycar for my dust collection. Works well.
But Jaycar has stopped selling the Kemo switch since the Green Powerboards made for Computers and TVs came out.

You can use one of this simple Green Powerboard to turn on your dust collector automatically if the total power is less than 2400W (240v*10A).
Other wise use a slave to turn on the Dust Collector THRU A RELAY.
I use one of this green Powerboard for my CNC router. The computer is master. Just turn on the computer and the CNC router is ON automatically + an external 12V water pump for the watercooled spindle. Of course the Stepper motors + VFD spindle + waterpump have power when PC is on but are still idle until Gcodes commands control and spin them.

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This is my SELF_WIRED Master-Slave extension.
Wiring is 15A, Plug is for a SWITCHED Overhead Socket which turn off BOTH Live and Neg wires. That switch is used to turn my machines on or off.
Master is set to 2.2KW
The Kemo Switch automatically delay the slave by a few seconds to avoid tripping the 15A circuit breaker when master or slave motor starts with surge currents. They do NOT start at the same time.
The VERTICAL HPM outlet used has independent connections - ie. it is not like the Usual twin power outlet on the wall.

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Have a look at iVac James. One central switch with wireless controllers on each machine, turn any machine on and the dc starts. Timbecon were to bring them in, but not sure where they are at. Quality, specifically designed for what you want.
Cheers Greg
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difalkner
I also use the $20 HF unit - works great. One is on the HF 2HP dust collector, one is on the shop vac, and one is on the exhaust fan in the window.

David
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If you are in the United States, I suggest you look at Home Depot for their remote control AC switch. It is only about $10 and can turn the AC power on and off easily. I use them for my two vacuums in my shop. I keep the small remote on a key chain and hook that to my clothing. if you buy from a wood store they will run about $30-$40 for a similar function. These remote switches are good for about 12-15 amps which is plenty for most dust collectors....
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harrysin
I can't find anything suitable on Timbecon or Carbatec, but I found these two on Ebay, the module is the same as the ones that I bought from Germany.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LASER-P...620515&hash=item25ac2b26a6:g:hnUAAOSwu4BV2JYG

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/KEMO-M1...452458?hash=item56aa4e676a:g:qjIAAOSw7rdahsVv
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MT Stringer
The HF dust collector I have is connected to the table saw, and a second blast gate is available so I can hook up a hose to the other tools when they are being used (jointer, planer, drum sander).

I used one of those cheap remotes for awhile and it lasted for several months , then quit working. Since it came in a three pack, I switched to another one. Same deal.

Then I ran an extension cord to a box adjacent to the blast gate and manually turned the DC on and off.

The last change was to purchase a Long Ranger. Problem solved. The extension cord/switch now controls the air compressor so I can turn it on/off only when air tools will be used.

The remote wasn't cheap, but it works on the higher demand of amps during startup.
https://www.amazon.com/PSI-Woodworking-LR110-3-110-Volt-Collector/dp/B00004S9AI

Note: Amazon says I purchased it in May 2017 so it's been a year of trouble free use.
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Remote Controlled outlet Cost AUD$36.90 at Bunnings

Thread Starter is in Australia (110V stuff won't work)
Simple solution in Australia is to use Australian 240V 10A (2400W) remote controlled power oulets
Like:
https://www.bunnings.com.au/arlec-remote-controlled-power-outlets-3-pack_p4331764
single pack also available

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