The comm is probably in bad shape, if it's not more serious like open windings or shorted lands. I'm not an expert but on drills I have sanded the commutator. Inspect it and I think you'll find it is damaged (excessive sparking causes damage). You have to be careful not to damage the wires attached to the segments. I've used a woman's emory board because it's fine and flat. Particles removed can go between the landings and could be conductive. A toothbrush and/or air might help. Hold the emory against it and turn it. Routers run way more quickly than drills etc, not sure if this might be too crude of a fix for them but it worked several times for me on slower motors. You only need to clean where the brushes ride.
Erbauer ER2100 sparks after changing the brushes
Hello everybody,
I bought Erbauer ER2100 at an auction some time ago.
When I received it, it was not working. I removed the top and noticed the brushes were disintegrated therefore I replaced them with these ones on Ebay
Once replaced the brushes, the router started working but I can see sparks from the motor as this video shows.
Is that normal or there is something wrong with it?
Many thanks
Alberto
I bought Erbauer ER2100 at an auction some time ago.
When I received it, it was not working. I removed the top and noticed the brushes were disintegrated therefore I replaced them with these ones on Ebay
Once replaced the brushes, the router started working but I can see sparks from the motor as this video shows.
Is that normal or there is something wrong with it?
Many thanks
Alberto
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G'day Alberto, welcome to the forum..
Welcome to the forum Alberto.
Last time I replace brushes in a router, they also sparked until the end of the brushes was ground down to the curve of the spinning center
I was thinking the same but as I am no expert I made the question. I will try the suggestion from TenGees any way and report the outcome.Last time I replace brushes in a router, they also sparked until the end of the brushes was ground down to the curve of the spinning center
Years ago When I worked on electric tools... I used commutator stones purchased from Eurton Electric in California to resurface commutators. Quick and easy to remove the brush's then insert the brush stones gently while spinning the armature to resurface them. They were available in different grits and worked quite well. Most of the damage to commutators is caused by heat from using too light of a cord. The heat generated causes the tension springs on the brushes to anneal... thus loosing tension, which leads to less contact, which causes more heat. The heat generated will eventually destroy the mica insulators that seperate the commutators and will eventually short out the armature. Using a cord that has been over flexed (where the strands break) or too light of a cord, is the biggest enemy to an electric motor because it will no longer provide enough power to the motor... Kind of like starving a gas engine of oil.The comm is probably in bad shape, if it's not more serious like open windings or shorted lands. I'm not an expert but on drills I have sanded the commutator. Inspect it and I think you'll find it is damaged (excessive sparking causes damage). You have to be careful not to damage the wires attached to the segments. I've used a woman's emory board because it's fine and flat. Particles removed can go between the landings and could be conductive. A toothbrush and/or air might help. Hold the emory against it and turn it. Routers run way more quickly than drills etc, not sure if this might be too crude of a fix for them but it worked several times for me on slower motors. You only need to clean where the brushes ride.
Thanks for the info gmercer. I would never have guessed that too light of a cord would cause excess heat and never heard of commutator stones. I always assumed the burned comm was from running with worn out brushes / bad springs etc. I was given an old corded Makita drill (nice old blue one with metal belt hook). Before spending money on it, I carved brush 'extenders' out of carpenter pencil lead. With those it ran way better instead of groaning. I replaced the brushes and cleaned the comm as described and it's been running like new for several years now. I always like those old Makitas.
Here is a link to brush seating stones....Eurton Electric Online Store
Brushes and especially brushes when they are new do not have the same radius as the armature and this will cause light sparking. You can take some fine sandpaper and a dowel to widen out the radius of the brushes. Or. Just wait for it to quit on it's own.The comm is probably in bad shape, if it's not more serious like open windings or shorted lands. I'm not an expert but on drills I have sanded the commutator. Inspect it and I think you'll find it is damaged (excessive sparking causes damage). You have to be careful not to damage the wires attached to the segments. I've used a woman's emory board because it's fine and flat. Particles removed can go between the landings and could be conductive. A toothbrush and/or air might help. Hold the emory against it and turn it. Routers run way more quickly than drills etc, not sure if this might be too crude of a fix for them but it worked several times for me on slower motors. You only need to clean where the brushes ride.
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