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Guys , I suspect some of you are familiar with both these companies. The price for the 4'x4' seems better at FLA compaired to CNCrouterparts , and the gantry system looks sturdier to me from FLA . I have been reading about complaints regarding customer service at FLA , mostly regerding not being able to contact easily .
I was debating to start by collecting parts for the future , mostly the hardware for now .
Also looked at JoesCNC.com , and it's also an option .

$4,100 for this from CNCrouterparts
PRO4848 4' x 4' CNC

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As opposed to $2,175 from FLA
https://www.finelineautomation.com/products/4-x-4-cnc-router?taxon_id=2

Check out the bearing system for the gantry at 46:40 . Looks sturdier than the one from CNC

 

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Rick,

Get hold of beltramidave. He's got most, if not all, of your answers. He just ordered a new frame after doing tons of research on various companies.
 
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Rick,

As stated by HJ, I just ordered a FLA Saturn 4x4, but have not received it yet as Nate is working on some modifications based on some issues with earlier machines. I am ok with waiting a little longer for this reason and so far have had satisfactory dialog with Nate.

First of all, I don't think you can accurately compare the CNCRouter Parts Pro line with the standard FLA machines. In my opinion, the CNCRouter Parts Pro machine is by far superior and if not for the difference in price and that the FLA Saturn machine comes fully assembled (with free shipping), I probably would have went with the CNCRouter Parts Pro4848.

As HJ has said, I have done a lot of research on this. The first thing you must realize, that these are kits and will still require quite a bit of work to get going as you still need electronics and machine software. If you are not comfortable with this, then I would recommend looking at the Probotix machines. I have lots of experience with these (Probotix) machines and they offer the most bang for your buck and they come to you ready to run, including plug and play electronics and computer with machine software already loaded and configured. There are several people on this forum, including HJ who can verify this.

Hope this helps.

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Thanks for the replies all . Dave I'm very comfortable building one , and don't want a complete machine . I really like Nates video ,as I prefer that to instructions.
CNCrouterparts is going to be less shipping wise I suspect , as FLA is a lot further east .
I thought where the gantry rolls on the sides of the rails looked much heavy dutier than the pro model from CNCrouterparts ?
But I have seen a post where the guys bearing were digging into the side steel plate .
I'll have to try and find Scott Arts pics of his build again to compare the gantries .

I realize the kit is just the beginning, but I thought I'd do this in steps . Build a stand , build the hardware , then as money permits , add the electronics and air cooled spindle.

I know if I don't get the ball rolling and do this in steps , that I will never own one
 

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If you look at the FLA Saturn series machines, there current pricing reflects free shipping. If you are comfortable with a kit, and are thinking FLA, then I would have a hard look at the Saturn series machines instead.

https://www.finelineautomation.com/t/saturn-series-cnc-machines

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Well Dave that's a good point , as there's a FedEx place in Kalispell. That's not far from me ,like 226km .
I should find out the weight and size and ask FedEx for a quote to get it from there to our office . Wish I renewed my dang passport
 

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I believe they are around 700lbs. I can let you know when I get mine. Have you seen this build thread? New Machine Build Saturn 4 X 4 build

Better get that passport applied for. That would be a beautiful drive!

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Thanks for the link ;)
I'll check with our local FedEx and get a price .

Guys complaining about 100 ipm not working well on corners . Not sure what material he's cutting though , I think it may be MDF . Gotta read threw that thread tonight
 

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@Raiman 2.0: Rick, how far would the cost of either of those machine compare to the cost of insulating your shop? Just thinking.
 

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@Raiman 2.0: Rick, how far would the cost of either of those machine compare to the cost of insulating your shop? Just thinking.
Dang , I dun near forget about the insulation issue :(
 

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Well I better get a passport soon. Went to our local FedEx terminal , and it's $1.500 to get it shipped that last couple of kilometres . Not including the exchange rate of 74 cents on the dollar , the 14 percent tax, and lastly the duty
 

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Excited for you. As you know I am a CNCRPts fan.... mine has been a brute, and runs continuously. The few issues have been with one electronic switch which they promptly upgraded and shipped no charge. Amazing support. Get the border guards drunk and sneak it in...
 

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I bought the FLA Saturn 4x4 in December. It is well built and made from quality components. The steel is very heavy and nicely welded, the power coating is not the greatest but its a machine and paint quality is better than some of the import tools I have bought in the past. It comes on a well made pallet with a heavy duty cardboard, waterproof cover. These are ready to go once you install the electronics. I do not have mine going yet, undecided on which electronics to use, what software I will use too Mach 4 or Linux CNC. I believe the owner of FLA is slow to respond to emails and voice mail. I do think he means well and is busy building and shipping the machines. He needs to do a better job with communicating with customers especially regarding shipping. I would recommend either size Saturn machine, a good value now especially with free shipping. I rented a F250 flatbed truck from Home Depot and 4x4 fit perfectly in the bed. Truck bed is a little hi to unload, I removed the box cover and used an engine hoist to unload. This is a heavy and rigid machine.
 

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Edward that's for the heads up . When you say you haven't installed the electronics , I was wondering if that means it doesn't have the stepper motors installed yet either ?
Are you going with the Nema 34 series?

I have a trailer to transport it , and your right , seeing as I believe it's over 700 pounds , it would be a tad heavy to remove from a truck bed alright.

I was going to buy extruded aluminum and build one from scratch , but for the price and the Saturns rugged looking design ,I'd sooner just purchace the Saturn .
That gantry certainly looks impressive in the picture
 

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The gantry has now been upgraded to an all steel tube like the frame only much larger, Rick, so it's even stronger than before. I don't know how many he still has on hand that have the 8020 aluminum extrusions or when the steel model will begin shipping, though.
 
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