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have Cncest 6040 Z need new contoller ,,,

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#1 ·
Well like post say need new controller ..
dont have much money that is why i buy 6040 with 1.5kw watercooled spindle .cost me 800euros with shipping .
and by looking these 4040 or like wood cnc that cost over 1k
this look like better option ..
Now problem ,it have some usb thing that can move things up down left right ,turn on off spindle (mach3)
but when i want to do something more complex beside cutting line (making boxes or like that ).. it fall apart ..
Example i get some ideas from projects i look over net . so i pick mine sony a7r3 cam wide lens and take load of pics ,then in gimp to turn it to height map (well look strange but) then i move all in software to create paths for 2 bits ,one for rough and 30 degree v shape one ..
then i export it like i did for manny boxes and like .. all fine till now .
But problem was ,box need 30min to 1h to cut , this one just rough 3h ,so i waste one board (not much lost cause for every new project i run first in cheap thing) then two then three ..
then i look map even all say this controller is junk some give advices (bad ones but -- )..
Then i make some simpler only 1.4h and 3h for fine ..
same soon thing past 1.2h it start to fup .loosing steps ,jerking .
At first i think must be usb ,even i turn off all usb power savings and i force always on .. and some more reading i decide i just wasting my time .. lets waste some money :)

And here i am .. which controller to get (pref lan connected) ??
i read how hard is to convert from this 6040 to other controller
but some of ppl out there convert it to ucccn and use axbb-e .
Can anyone help me ? which will be easy to transfer old junk board to new better one ?
wires wont be a problem but vfd will how i read ..
thanks
 
#2 ·
well after ytube run i came to ddcs v3.1 /4.1 converted 6040
but no explanations how to .where connect wires and so and so ..
what u think will be easy to convert to axbb-e and uccnc software like all in one ?
or to ddcs and use him for all ?
btw software i use is vertic 10 it is old sw but only have money for used .is he have post for ddcs or axbb-e ?.
 
#4 ·
Welcome to the forum.
Someone with more CNC knowledge should be along shortly to help.
 
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#5 ·
Hi,

I purchased a CNCEST machine a few years ago. The first thing I noticed was that many screws, bolts, wires, connectors were NOT done up tight. I went over EVERYTHING...

I wanted to do some fine work (PCB engraving), but MACH3 had issues with that (actually it was the combo MACH3 and the USB controller). I then transitioned to LinuxCNC.

LinuxCNC does NOT support the USB controller. I replaced the USB CNC controller board with a Parallel card (i have plenty of Parallel ports on my PC)

LinuxCNC is a hard-steep road (mostly because the documentation is out of step with the versioning). The people in their forum are very helpful.

I'm happy with the results.

I'm working on a new spindle cooler control system (in my spare time). Currently, the cooler simply comes On and Off with the machine. My design will include spindle movement and some temperature sensors...

I'm happy to take questions.

Kind regards
Pedro
 
#6 ·
well paralel is out of question ,,cause in last 10 or years my pc did not have that port,
prolly longer ,,and usb versions are crap ,and only few pcie cards work with linux cnc
so if i got linuxcnc way i will need mesa lab board .. so is this one ok and easy to set with linuxcnc ?
mesa el 7i96s 220euros price ?
same price is uccnc + axbb-e combo 230euros
so what is easy to setup and later on run ?
thanks
 
#7 · (Edited)
Hi,

I would get onto the LinuxCNC forum and ask there for the Mesa compatibility,

Also ask about compatibility of your PC make and model.

I have collected a box full Parallel PCI-X cards over many years - I should sell them on ebay for a 1,000,000 dollars... :D

For me, I couldn't get the accuracy I required using MACH3 & USB. I now have it with LinuxCNC & Parallel. Sorry, I haven't looked further since.

A fundamental part of the accuracy I was seeking involved Z Axis Probing. I was not confident that I could reach my target from what I read about MACH4. However, with LinuxCNC I can read the code, and even thought I could see short comings in it, I could implement a work-around...

Kind regards
Pedro
 
#9 ·
Hi,

The cards I use are SUNIX brand. I only use them in SPP mode, so NO driver is required.

If you don't know - SPP (Simple Parallel Port) means that most of the pins are fixed as either an Input or Output.

SPP is more robust too.

I hope this helps.

Kind regards
Pedro
 
#13 · (Edited by Moderator)
Hi,

I created my own Parallel interface PCB, because I wanted some customisation, and for it to fit into the same space that the old USB interface was. The Controller case included a hole for the DB25 connector.
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When I looked at the Controllers (supplied for CNCEST), most had Parallel card options, so there must be cards for them.

What is a 'bob'?

Kind regards
Pedro
 
#16 ·
If you have external stepper motor drivers, then there are a lot of options available to you. Basically any Grbl based board will simply drop right in. I'd recommend moving to grblHAL, the 32 bit version of Grbl. There are like 30 different boards that support it and prices are typically well less than $100. I make and sell several but there are many to choose from.
 
#18 · (Edited)
Sorry for the late replay. The link I gave have links to the individual boards. There is a link on each to where to buy.

But, I sell on Tindie and ship to most European countries. If yours is not supported, contact me via the "contact seller" link and I will see about adding your country.

It uses the Grbl Post Processor. Vectric is well supported. I use it almost daily to make tings to cut on my several CNC machines driven by the boards.

Both boards support Ethernet which is a $12 upgrade option. The total cost for the 4 Axis PicoCNC board is about $50, including the Pico. The Teensy based one is around $86 total including the Teensy. Shipping adds more - around $21 to European countries.