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I know this is router central on the web, but is the table saw really the center of action in a shop?

I've been reviewing some of the early episodes of Woodsmith where they focus on the table saw and how to use it for a massive number of tasks and joints. One thing I do like about that show is they try to stick to a small number of tools, the things someone on a budget is likely to have. A router, of course is one of those tools, but the precision and control of a good table saw and a few good blades is easy to overlook.

It takes some care in setting up a saw, but holy cow, what a useful tool it becomes once you tune the heck out of it. Drawer making comes to mind. You can make a tight, strong joint assembling drawers in a few passes using accurate bars to space the cuts.

Personally, the addition of a decent dado set, the full kerf glue line blade, and for fun, the 1/4-3/8ths blade pair, has made making things highly predictable and accurate. My saw is a Laguna Hybrid, 10 inch 110v model with 220 conversion available.

What are your thoughts about your table saw. How have you used it? How important is it to your woodworking? What is the most complex thing you've done with it? What saw do you have? How do you like it? Are you thinking of upgrading in some way, what would you do? If you had endless cash, which saw would you get? General discussion, anything table saw goes.
 

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It's the center of action in my shop. So important that I have 2 of them. The main one is a Unisaw. The backup is an old 10" Rockwell that is 2 hp and 220 volt. I changed the original fence to a Mule/Accusquare. Besides the regular sizing jobs - finger joints, dentil molding, tenons, lap joints, profiles using an old moulding head, dadoes, bevels, repeatable cut offs, and probably a few other jobs I can't think of.
 

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It's the center of action in my shop. So important that I have 2 of them. The main one is a Unisaw. The backup is an old 10" Rockwell that is 2 hp and 220 volt. I changed the original fence to a Mule/Accusquare. Besides the regular sizing jobs - finger joints, dentil molding, tenons, lap joints, profiles using an old moulding head, dadoes, bevels, repeatable cut offs, and probably a few other jobs I can't think of.
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Couldn't be without a table saw. I have two. Both Shopsmiths. One has the old Jointech Saw Train with router table (boy, do I wish they were still in business). It's a dedicated rip saw. The other one does the cross cuts, dadoes, etc. And, it powers all the Shopsmith accessory tools.
As to blades, I finally found one that gives me a decent glue edge. Now, they are all I use on all my saws. Brand is Tenryu.
 
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I recall that Sommerfeld has a table saw attachment that cuts perfect match joints for beaded face frames. They have another cutter for the TS that is for cove cutting. See pix. Here's the link to the catalog page: http://pubs.royle.com/publication/index.php?i=550263&m=26109&l=1&p=1&pre=&ver=html5#{%22page%22:16,%22issue_id%22:550263}

That catalog is really neat because it shows all kinds of cuttere, their names and profiles. I am happy with every one of that company's products so far.
 

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Love my table saw . I had a contractors saw with a Bies fence , as I learned earlier on that the fence is extremely important.
My friend purchased a Delta contractors saw , and you had to lock the fence down,then tap it with your fist to get it square .
So I didn’t make that mistake and paid double lol.

After joining the forum I learned about dust collection, so I sold my contractors saw and bought a General cabinet saw .
It has an Excalibur fence which is very similar to a Biesemeyer fence , but is a little more refined .
The face comes off and you add your own face if you chose , like a sacrificial section .
Below is a pic of the sacrificial fence section I built . Very handy when I built cabinets .

Also I disliked my friends wobble dado, so I purchased a Freud dado . Was $340 here in Canada but well worth it to me . I believe by turning it’s adjuster you can change it four thousandth of an inch at a time.

Not pictured but I also installed a PC690 under the right wing at a later date , just to get me by till I assemble my router table . I don’t think you can have enough router tables anyways .


Strange , I can’t post imgur urls anymore



https://imgur.com/gallery/auIxKeT
 

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I know this is router central on the web, but is the table saw really the center of action in a shop?

I've been reviewing some of the early episodes of Woodsmith where they focus on the table saw and how to use it for a massive number of tasks and joints.

What are your thoughts about your table saw. How have you used it? How important is it to your woodworking? What is the most complex thing you've done with it? What saw do you have? How do you like it? Are you thinking of upgrading in some way, what would you do? If you had endless cash, which saw would you get? General discussion, anything table saw goes.
I would say it depends on what you are doing/making. Right now the center of action for me is my router.

This may change for me in the not so far future, at which time I will likely convert my HF saw into a disc sander, and get another saw for sawing. Got the HF saw in about 1996 or 7, and is still serving well, but starting to have some adjustment issues. Most complex thing with it is probably the complex saw sled I made and used on it - until I didn't need it, and recycled it. Wish now I had kept it, but it was taking up room I needed. I will upgrade, but don't need a really high grade saw, dunno what I would get, because my saw is still working for me. Decide later. Endless cash? No brainer, I'd get myself one of those bandsaw mills, one you ride on, rather than push. And to make it a table saw, I'd put a small table in front of the seat, so I could eat my lunch without leaving the machine. But with no endless cash, if I had more room, I would likely make/convert a saw to one that would be perfect for what I need. As is I did make a saw using an upside down sabre saw under a top, which works well for me.

Oops, almost forgot. Watched a Woodsmith episode the other day, in which they concentrated on the router and a shop made jig. Fascinating.
 

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Projects dictate my use of the table saw but I do have a radial-arm saw that I use quite often. Most of my projects now are small so I don't need the table saw very much.

When I do use it I try to make sure I do everything on it that I need to so I can store it out of the way until needed again.
 

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Like anything else, it depends on what you do. If you are making large furniture, or working with a lot of sheet goods, a table saw is worth its weight. If you are making small things, you might be able to get by with a Miter Saw or RAS, bandsaw, and other tools.

I love my saw. It's my 3rd tablesaw, learning what I wanted from each of it's predecessors along the way. Right now I am working with my younger brother to find a saw for him, balancing features and budget. Hopefully something will come along soon. The worst thing would be him to buy a 'cheap' saw, and hate it. He might be able to get by with a RAS, but he has a lot of thin ripping jobs to do and he doesn't think he'll feel comfortable with that.
 

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As noted above, I would not want to be without my TS, but over the course of most projects it may or may not have much of a role. Similar to other key tools, when you need one you need one. Just remember how to use it CAREFULLY.
 

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I have a Jet 10" Super saw. It is under powered and has problems with adjusting the blade height. But I have a Incra 52" Fence system which is amazing. Love it. I use the table saw all the time primarily for around the house work. I am still very much learning--but my skills are getting better--much thanks to this forum. I would love to get a Sawstop Professional 3HP 52" with the large sliding table. If only I could convince my wife.
 

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Like anything else, it depends on what you do. If you are making large furniture, or working with a lot of sheet goods, a table saw is worth its weight. If you are making small things, you might be able to get by with a Miter Saw or RAS, bandsaw, and other tools.

I love my saw. It's my 3rd tablesaw, learning what I wanted from each of it's predecessors along the way. Right now I am working with my younger brother to find a saw for him, balancing features and budget. Hopefully something will come along soon. The worst thing would be him to buy a 'cheap' saw, and hate it. He might be able to get by with a RAS, but he has a lot of thin ripping jobs to do and he doesn't think he'll feel comfortable with that.
The old Rockwell I have was sold to me by a friend for $100. He wanted to upgrade. It it didn't come 220 to him then he converted it. The fence on them was usable but I already had a very good after market fence to put on it. The only real drawbacks on those old Rockwell saws was a fairly mediocre miter gauge and very little table behind the blade, both of which can be fixed. No matter what the saw is I recommend adding an outfeed table and if you need a good miter gauge there are lots of good choices. I see those old Rockwells for sale from time to time and they are usually reasonable. With the after market fence it really isn't that much less of a saw than my Uni and the Rockwell was $2000 cheaper (twenty something years ago price) even counting the fence upgrade.
 

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I don't have a table saw yet. But I am "allowed" to buy one, and I'm leaning hard toward getting this little fella:
https://www.totaltools.com.au/power.../96293-dewalt-2000w-254mm-table-saw-dwe7491xe

The fence is connected at both ends, so is the best of what I've seen in this market so far. Most of the others I've seen (Makita, Ryobi etc) only connect at one end and allow a little play by the time you get to the other, which I want nothing to do with.

Also the fence can fold away out of the way if I need to cut sheet goods, and has a small er auxiliary fence also.
The blade seems to be a relatively easy size to source, so replacements/specific blades shouldn't be an issue.

Any thoughts folks?
 

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I have an old el cheapo table saw I bought new many years ago & it served its purpose until I joined the Forum.Since then I've learned some of the finer points of woodworking & now know it's a real LEMON.Every task carried out with it makes life miserable.I thought if I sold my rifles I'd be able to afford a half decent saw but guns in Australia are almost worthless now since new ownership laws came in. So, I purchased a spanking new sliding miter saw with the money from the rifles,but know I still need a table saw. Oh well,Christmas is not far off. Jamesjj777746
 

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I don't have a table saw yet. But I am "allowed" to buy one, and I'm leaning hard toward getting this little fella:
https://www.totaltools.com.au/power.../96293-dewalt-2000w-254mm-table-saw-dwe7491xe

Any thoughts folks?
It's hard to give feedback because the tools available are quite different in other parts of the world. This is not my favorite saw, in the USA. Here I would go for the Bosch 4100, but I'm not sure you have it in Oz. However, I think DeWalt has improved this saw since I last looked at it, and DeWalt is going for a hither end place in the tool world.
 

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Like anything else, it depends on what you do. If you are making large furniture, or working with a lot of sheet goods, a table saw is worth its weight. If you are making small things, you might be able to get by with a Miter Saw or RAS, bandsaw, and other tools.

I love my saw. It's my 3rd tablesaw, learning what I wanted from each of it's predecessors along the way. Right now I am working with my younger brother to find a saw for him, balancing features and budget. Hopefully something will come along soon. The worst thing would be him to buy a 'cheap' saw, and hate it. He might be able to get by with a RAS, but he has a lot of thin ripping jobs to do and he doesn't think he'll feel comfortable with that.
Doug, I find mine was invaluable when I tried building my first shelves and drawers , and I have many more to build once I’m done .
I sure learned a lot here ,as I’ve never had the know how or the confidence to do it in the past .
 

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For 1fizgig: Be careful with that ts you're hoping to buy. it should cost about $400 dollars unless it is on sale -then cheaper. I've had this beauty 10" DeWalt jobsite saw for 10 years. But the price stated on your link is WAY too high. Good luck.
 
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