For the Woodstock woodshow the Router Workshop has Bob Rosendahl listed giving seminar's titled "Mr Router's Farewell". Oak Park won't even have a both at this show - last year they didn't have any live demonstrations at their booth - their booth was always a great place to visit and watch (I think his name was Mark?) all the jigs and stuff work and also you could get Mark to go over things again - slower after people moved on. Their interactive booth was missed last year and now they won't even have a booth. This forum is great. Times change. Without Mark - I'd never have gotten so much of their stuff - some of it I've since learned I could have made myself, but he challenged me to use my router and now I love it! I'm finishing a cabinet makers course and I always talk about using the router instead of the table saw for many things. I think I'm getting the teacher converted!