My toonie is,it is a PITA to swap a router out of the table to use as a hand held, get 2 routers that fit your needs separately.
Herb
Herb
Is the Bosch MRP23EVSK not just an improved 1617?
Was watching a video on the MRP23EVSK, and I see they made some improvements.
One thing I like is it actually has led lights built in , plus the power switch is on the handle making it more ergonomical .
But I mostly hear about the 1617EVSPK on the forum .
My idea was to buy the 1617 with its fixed base as it’s cheaper , and use it in a router table with a lift possibly, and to buy the MRP23 for plunge routing .
One thing I like is it actually has led lights built in , plus the power switch is on the handle making it more ergonomical .
But I mostly hear about the 1617EVSPK on the forum .
My idea was to buy the 1617 with its fixed base as it’s cheaper , and use it in a router table with a lift possibly, and to buy the MRP23 for plunge routing .
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Yes that’s the plan . Get the 1617 for a lift , and the 23 for plunging . I have the Festool 1400 and to tell you truth I don’t like the ergonomics of the handles .My toonie is,it is a PITA to swap a router out of the table to use as a hand held, get 2 routers that fit your needs separately.
Herb
Sweet router otherwise and probably makes as much noise as a spindle.
Plus you can’t have too many routers
Is that kind of like the handplane collectors? I have known some that have walls and drawers full of planers, and never do a lick of woodworking, or have sharpened a single plane.
Herb
Herb
Not understanding the question? The Festool 1400 is a routerIs that kind of like the handplane collectors? I have known some that have walls and drawers full of planers, and never do a lick of woodworking, or have sharpened a single plane.
Herb
yup!!!!my toonie is,it is a pita to swap a router out of the table to use as a hand held, get 2 routers that fit your needs separately.
Herb
My point was there are people too that collect routers and never use them all. I am one of those I have several routes I have never used, still in the box, I guess you could call them spares. (no HF)Not understanding the question? The Festool 1400 is a router
Herb
if you had them from you'd need a truckload of them as ''spares''....My point was there are people too that collect routers and never use them all. I am one of those I have several routes I have never used, still in the box, I guess you could call them spares. (no HF)
Herb
I have a few spares around still in the box. Instead of changing worn-out brushes in a router you can just chunk the old router in the trash and get a new one out a box. Keeps your hands clean.>My point was there are people too that collect routers and never use them all. I am one of those I have several routes I have never used, still in the box, I guess you could call them spares. (no HF)
Herb
A Bit of Humous
I had to go back and reread that, "How'd Herb get started on Greek food???"My toonie is,it is a PITA to swap a router out of the table to use as a hand held, get 2 routers that fit your needs separately.
Herb
Bosch MRF23EVS vs Bosch 1617EVS ? Which is the Better Router?Was watching a video on the MRP23EVSK, and I see they made some improvements.
One thing I like is it actually has led lights built in , plus the power switch is on the handle making it more ergonomical .
But I mostly hear about the 1617EVSPK on the forum .
My idea was to buy the 1617 with its fixed base as it’s cheaper , and use it in a router table with a lift possibly, and to buy the MRP23 for plunge routing .
Herb
But they look mighty fine displayed on the walls. Gives a look of an old timer..........Is that kind of like the handplane collectors? I have known some that have walls and drawers full of planers, and never do a lick of woodworking, or have sharpened a single plane.
Herb
I had good luck with the 23(but then I had bad luck with a Porter Cable so maybe I should shut up) Oh well charging ahead, the switch in the handle design helps with control especially when shutting down at the end of routing a freehand design.
I have messed up some projects using my palm router trying reach over and shut the unit off.
The only issue I ever had with the 23 was trying to use it in a table-the lift is a bad design and dirt in the switch causing it to fail. The dirt in the switch problem never showed up when using the unit out of the table.
It has a heavier feel to it compared to my 1617 when free handing which helps me with control.
I have messed up some projects using my palm router trying reach over and shut the unit off.
The only issue I ever had with the 23 was trying to use it in a table-the lift is a bad design and dirt in the switch causing it to fail. The dirt in the switch problem never showed up when using the unit out of the table.
It has a heavier feel to it compared to my 1617 when free handing which helps me with control.
Now that's funny! A very good sense of humour!I had to go back and reread that, "How'd Herb get started on Greek food???"
Now that's funny! A very good sense of humour!
Thats Dan he sees the humerous side of things. LOL
Herb
Thank you for your input Charlie . I’ll only be using the 23 as a plunge router and the 1617 mounted in a lift , so shouldn’t have any issues .I had good luck with the 23(but then I had bad luck with a Porter Cable so maybe I should shut up) Oh well charging ahead, the switch in the handle design helps with control especially when shutting down at the end of routing a freehand design.
I have messed up some projects using my palm router trying reach over and shut the unit off.
The only issue I ever had with the 23 was trying to use it in a table-the lift is a bad design and dirt in the switch causing it to fail. The dirt in the switch problem never showed up when using the unit out of the table.
It has a heavier feel to it compared to my 1617 when free handing which helps me with control.
One thing I was wondering, is why people couldn’t incorporate a foot switch to shut their router off and on if your free handing something.
Seems like it would help in some situations where the router doesn’t have an easily accessible switch .
I think the 23 is a genius design with the plates that give the motor continuity to the handle . Kuddos to Bosch for actually innovating something
I guess my next question is do I order these routers threw Amazon or Home Depot .
The price is similar I believe , and I’d feel better going threw HD warranty wise , so I guess HD is the winner.
Of course HD in Canada does not stock them, go figure
The price is similar I believe , and I’d feel better going threw HD warranty wise , so I guess HD is the winner.
Of course HD in Canada does not stock them, go figure
Rick, in my opinion, a footswitch is an accident waiting to happen. Not just because you could end up with cut fingers but we all, or at least I have a bad habit of piling things on empty flat surfaces. That might throw things if the switch gets stepped on accidentally. Again that is just my opinion.One thing I was wondering, is why people couldn’t incorporate a foot switch to shut their router off and on if your free handing something.
Seems like it would help in some situations where the router doesn’t have an easily accessible switch .
1... agreedRick,
1... in my opinion, a footswitch is an accident waiting to happen.
2... I have a bad habit of piling things on empty flat surfaces.
2... you are alone in that department...
I do recommend a variable speed control on the table mounted routers, it also can be used to turn the router on/off. They say that the speed controls don't work on soft start and variable speed routers. I have an older PC7518 in my jessem table and set it on hi speed on the motor and use the speed control. On the other table I have a Bosch 1617 and do the same. Both seem to work OK.
Herb
Herb
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