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Is this a one or two bit design

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Hello all. It’s been a spell since I have been here. But glad to be back. I have a magazine rack table I found at a friend house, who were nice enough give it me. It is need of a lot of care. The top has sepaerated into three pieces and those into smaller sections. So the table top will need to be replaced. Glueing it back together will not work. I was wondering if there is a bit to do the edge or are two bits required and what would they be? Any help will be much appreciated.
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Looks like two bits to me. A cove for the top, a bead for the bottom. Looks to be about 3/4 thickness.

Maybe this chart will help you search for and identify the best choice. Look at the cove and bead bit, fourth row, third bit. It looks pretty close.
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Looks like two bits to me. A cove for the top, a bead for the bottom. Looks to be about 3/4 thickness.

Maybe this chart will help you search for and identify the best choice. Look at the cove and bead bit, fourth row, third bit. It looks pretty close.
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Hello DRTom. Yes you are correct it is 3/4”. Good eye. And the bit you pointed out is very close if not spot on. Thank you. I will see what I can find for a bit. Is there a section in the forum where I can ask questions about woodworking tools (a hammer and chisel). Again thank you.
I saw this article in Woodsmouith magazine that may help.

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Hello DRTom. Yes you are correct it is 3/4”. Good eye. And the bit you pointed out is very close if not spot on. Thank you. I will see what I can find for a bit. Is there a section in the forum where I can ask questions about woodworking tools (a hammer and chisel). Again thank you.
I think the bit is very close, but there is an edge that will be sharp on the new cuts, but you can soften it with a bit of sandpaper.

The general woodworking section, but all new posts show up in the main feed. You will get a lot of feedback, someone here is sure to have and use a tool you're thinking of buying.

Here is a pdf article I wrote awhile ago about the 18 plus things that helped me accelerate my learning curve. It is long, but has pictures. I hope it will be helpful and keep you from wasting money. If you get serious about woodworking, You'll want to do something about sawdust collection, unless you are working outdoors all the time.Don't feel like you you have to buy everything at once, I filled my shop over a 10 year period when I had peak earnings. Bought a lot of goodies that I really never use, so advice is useful.

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Thank you DRTom and James. Both your articles will be helpful. I don’t have large machines, but they do what I need and at the time I could afford. Tom your article mentioned putting the machines on cabinets I believe. I have. Since I share the garage with the wife and Jeep that only leaves me a 1/3. So I went to a re-use it store and found pre made cabinets that had been removed for a renovation. Added casters with brakes and I can move them as I need. It works. James I had seen that article before but forgot about it. I wont forget again. Some of my hand tools are refinished ones I picked up at the flea market or thrift shops.The older the better. Old rusty tools need love too. That’s why I was asking about hand tools. I have an Estwing hammer that the company dated for me but there was a question about it they would not answer. The chisel has no name or handle and I was wonder if someone might be able to put a manufacture to it. Thank you both of helping. Don’t know how I can help but would give it try. Wayne.
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A classic stepped Ogee bit: Edging :: Classical Ogee :: Classical Ogee Edging and Molding Router Bit Large - 1/2" Shank - Yonico 13186 could do the top, followed by a 3/16" roundover bit for the bottom edge. Soften the crisp step if you want, but I'm guessing the original simply softened with age and use.
As you are making a new top you also have the option of using whatever profile you want. I like this French cove and bead bit: FRENCH COVE & BEAD ROUTER BITS. Similar, but a little more refined look.
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Thank you DRTom and James. Both your articles will be helpful. I don’t have large machines, but they do what I need and at the time I could afford. Tom your article mentioned putting the machines on cabinets I believe. I have. Since I share the garage with the wife and Jeep that only leaves me a 1/3. So I went to a re-use it store and found pre made cabinets that had been removed for a renovation. Added casters with brakes and I can move them as I need. It works. James I had seen that article before but forgot about it. I wont forget again. Some of my hand tools are refinished ones I picked up at the flea market or thrift shops.The older the better. Old rusty tools need love too. That’s why I was asking about hand tools. I have an Estwing hammer that the company dated for me but there was a question about it they would not answer. The chisel has no name or handle and I was wonder if someone might be able to put a manufacture to it. Thank you both of helping. Don’t know how I can help but would give it try. Wayne.
Hi, You're welcome. I used to get a catalog from a couple of bit makers, but can't lay my hands on them right now. But this should be a fairly easy bit to find.

I have a similar set of nested tables I inherited from my mom and dad, they must be about 80 years old, and they have a similar edge, except they are 5/8ths thick. They have spindly legs and I just love them. Reminds me of my home growing up. Not sure they are antique quality, the finish on top is stained and worn away.

I also have an old Estwing hammer, 13 oz, which was given to me by an old finish carpenter ("Pike" Clarence Exline) the first summer I went out with him as a helper on jobs. He taught me how to hand doors. He had all hand tools and I remember him having a heavy duty miter box and saw for doing trim. He traded services for room and board and built four of the apartments my mother designed on our 109 x 200 ft lot. All but one is standing and producing rental income that repays their actual cost every three months. He was a whiz at scrounging recycled lumber. That hammer is from the 1940s. Pike liked a lighter hammer.

My dad taught me plumbing, which was a regular issue on our pre 1913 farm house. My mom sold half the property for an apartment building, and when they tore down the old house, they gave it a nudge with a bulldozer, and the whole thing fell down. It's inside walls were covered with 1x12 slabs of redwood, few studs, built like a fence. Today that redwood would be considered a valuable asset.

Sorry to go all nostalgic on you. But I'm old as dirt now and memories are dear.

As to old tools, If you have pictures, a lot of the guys here love to recycle and revive old tools. So post pictures and someone may know. A lot of old timers on the Router Forum, and some who are great at research
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Hello, thank you 4DTinker for your ideas. They are good leads and your right, I can come with my own edge as it will be my top. Tom, don’t worry about get nostalgic. There is nothing wrong with remembering the past. The hammer is a 16 oz. Got it at the flea market. Per Estwing it was made between 1930 and 1940 and the hole in the end plate was for bees wax. We I asked if the bar across the posts (studs) they claimed up. I am trying to figure out if that was part of the original hammer or did someone add it because the studs were too short. The chisel is, you guess it, flea market find. There nothing on it as to who manufactured it. I just thought someone might have one or recognized it. I will get on my table as soon as I finish my grand daughters dollhouse. Grand children can keep you as busy as a wife, and I love all dearly.

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May not what you are wanting to do but I would try to salvage the top. The parts can be straightened out so they can be put back together. Just my approach though.
That's a nice, wide chisel. Not cheap to buy new. The tang will need a nice wood handle, but you can either make one, or probably buy one. I recall seeing tangs for sale. This is not a chisel I'd use a hammer on.
Rob that was an idea I started with when I got the table/magazine rack. But a couple of the boards have separated even more. I haven’t put a clamp on them to see if I can pull them together yet. It’s worth a try. Tom, I think I picked this up for a buck. Someone had already beat on it and rolled the tang over. A wee bit of heat and gentle bending and I got it back straight. Now for a handle. Thank you everyone.

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