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Is This plane a good value?

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I've noticed @Stick486 is strong advocate for hand planes. I would like expert opinion on this item I found on Amazon: (I could not get a link to the webpage to work. I do apologize tor all inconvenience everyone who tries to respond will have)
Taytools 469225 3-in-1 Shoulder Plane, Bullnose and Chisel Plane, Ductile Cast Iron, Precision Machined, 1 Inch Wide Blade
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Thanks very much.
So is this thing Chinese junk?
Can you recommend a good plane?
Thanks very much.
So is this thing Chinese junk?
Can you recommend a good plane?
Taytools is Taylor Tools' brand and the plane is made for them... ..
Taylor Tools doesn't know where the plane was made... I called..

yes, I can recommend a better than a most excellent plane... VOE..
Veritas® Medium Shoulder Plane - Lee Valley Tools

stay away from the Sweetheart 92...

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see Herb's plan for one and make your own..

note...
a 1'' wide body doesn't work on a lot of dadoes or groves..
it is great on dressing tenons and rabbets..
the plane is made in India..
Taytools is Taylor Tools' brand and the plane is made for them... ..
Taylor Tools doesn't know where the plane was made... I called..

yes, I can recommend a better than a most excellent plane... VOE..
Veritas® Medium Shoulder Plane - Lee Valley Tools

stay away from the Sweetheart 92...

..
see Herb's plan for one and make your own..

note...
a 1'' wide body doesn't work on a lot of dadoes or groves..
it is great on dressing tenons and rabbets..
the plane is made in India..

@Stick486 Thank you so very much. The effgort you put into formulating your answers is amazing.
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@Stick486 Thank you so very much. The effgort you put into formulating your answers is amazing.
yur more than welcome...

VOE...
#92.. you read the PDF...
Woodriver.. lots of fine tuning and w/ lots of use the heel of my hand tenderized.. better plane for small to medium sized hand.. gave it away...
Clifton 420 and 3110... sweet... but not real comfortable.. sold them.. the Veritas made me do it..
Lie Nielsen 042 and 073.. very nice but didn't fit my hands.. really can't explain it.. sold them..
Veritas.. Small, Medium, Large and Bullnose.... instant gratification and the love affair began...
Veritas, Lie Nielsens and the Cliftons were good to go out of the box...
the Woodriver had to be worked/tuned/trued/sharpened before use.. the iron was over sized...
#92 one sorry assed piece of shid...
Also check out Wood River III planes. I have several and they're good, not quite up to the Veritas, but when you tune them up, they're very good. Kind of depends on how much you use it. A shoulder plane and block plane are really useful tools. Stick is amazing, isn't he?
NEVER HEARD OF TAYTOOLS...
They seem to be flooding the market. Plenty of info on them, but nothing on where they are made. Was one reference to a knockoff made in India, but not sure it referred to a Taytool.
They seem to be flooding the market. Plenty of info on them, but nothing on where they are made. Was one reference to a knockoff made in India, but not sure it referred to a Taytool.
I confirmed India..
I confirmed India..
So I saw. After I had already posted.
@TWheels

so what plane did you get me???
Tom the Veritas medium shoulder plane might cost about 3 times as much as the Taytools plane but that is because it is superior in many ways. If you plan on using it very much and can afford the extra cost I'd buy the Veritas. If it is going to be an occasional use tool then I think I would buy a blade from Veritas and make one like Herb made or a similar design.
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@TWheels

so what plane did you get me???

@Stick486, none yet. I am inclined to save up and as you and @MEBCWD suggest get the Veritas plane.

The world of planes is vastly more complex (and expensive) than I had ever imagined.
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Cheap planes often have a number of issues with them such as the sole not being flat, sides not square to the sole, bed not flat causing blade chatter, adjustment mechanism not working smoothly enough to allow fine adjustment, and chip breaker not fitting properly to blade. All those issues are taken care of with Veritas and Lie Neilsen. Cliftons I'm not familiar with.
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@TWheels...

side thought...
of all those planes I listed it was the Veritas that melded to my hand and became and extension...
it wasn't something I need to ''hold'' on or adapt to..
nor was it something that need work to make it work...
I belong to the ready to go crowd...
why buy something that you have to spend more time/energy/money on to get it to do something..

back to the tangible/intangible cost thing...
@Stick486, none yet. I am inclined to save up and as you and @MEBCWD suggest get the Veritas plane.
thanks...
I can always use another Veritas...
make it these if you will...
Veritas® Skew Block Plane - Lee Valley Tools
Veritas® Skew Rabbet Plane - Lee Valley Tools

a little minor point(s)..
they need to be L&R sets..
and have the PM-V11 irons/blades..
thanks...
I can always use another Veritas...
make it these if you will...
Veritas® Skew Block Plane - Lee Valley Tools
Veritas® Skew Rabbet Plane - Lee Valley Tools

a little minor point(s)..
they need to be L&R sets..
and have the PM-V11 irons/blades..
That will require a serious savings program!
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