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Long time since I have posted. Life has been hectic and wood working got put on the back burner. Recently I had someone contact me as they have had terrible luck with contractors in my area actually getting back to him let alone completing jobs. A friend of mine told him about me and at first I was hesitant to take on the job of building kitchen cabinets for him. He's not in a hurry and lives close by and it definitely helps he is a really nice down to earth guy so I decided what the heck and took the job as long as its within budget. I was upfront and told him I had never built them before but he didn't mind at all and honestly he would be happy with crappy cabinets but that's not what we're about on this site.
At this moment I am trying to figure out a layout for his kitchen. I already had to scrap several of his ideas because they were silly (not to mention probably not up to code)and wouldn't work anyways. We've agreed on the basics of the layout and right now I am figuring what size cabinets I need to make for the spaces allowed. The main things that slow me down aren't the major details, its the finer ones which I will touch base with as this thread progresses. At this moment I have a few questions below.
His stove is going to be between a cabinet (left side) and the wall (right side). Its a 29 7/8" wide stove. How much room of a gap is recommended? We agreed on 1/2 on each side as I am worried about his home being square. Its a very old house. Most of what I read says 30" only leaving 1/8 which doesn't give me any leeway. There is a back door where the door molding is flush with the rest of the wall but later if he decided to add one that stuck out might be an issue sliding the stove in and out but right now it wouldn't be.
On another portion of the kitchen, I have a Lazy Susan corner cabinet, then a dishwasher space, then about 16 inches left to work with. He wants a small cabinet built on the other side of the dishwasher. My question is since it will border a door way how much does a counter top over hand on the end of a cabinet that isn't next to a stove? Is it the standard 1 inch or flush? This will determine how wide a cabinet I build since there isn't a lot of room to work with.
To give you guys an idea of a total layout on the south wall if you were looking at the sink from right to left he will have a stove, a 24" cabinet with nothing but drawers, 48 inch kitchen sink cabinet, and then a 3 foot corner cabinet with a lazy susan. Continuing off that corner cabinet there will be the 24" space for a dish washer, than a cabinet to the left of it ranging from 12-16 inches wide then a doorway.
The only other base cabinets I will install are in the opposite corner from the lazy susan mentioned above. I have about 48 inches to work with on each side of the orner. His fridge is being sunk into the wall (to the right of the corner cabinet) where his old pantry was. I will be using probably maple 3/4 possibly oak plywood. Its pretty much the same price but the reviews for maple were much better than oak ply. If the budget allows I will make raised panel doors, though he seemed ecstatic if I just make shaker doors using plywood.
I will also be making upper cabinets that mirror the lower ones, minus the window above the sink and plus ones above the stove where he will be hanging a microwave.
His budget is around $4,000 for supplies and to pay me. Counter tops aren't included in that. So hopefully that is doable. I'm definitely going to need advice through out the project if the budget allows it so I would appreciate any and all help from you guys.
At this moment I am trying to figure out a layout for his kitchen. I already had to scrap several of his ideas because they were silly (not to mention probably not up to code)and wouldn't work anyways. We've agreed on the basics of the layout and right now I am figuring what size cabinets I need to make for the spaces allowed. The main things that slow me down aren't the major details, its the finer ones which I will touch base with as this thread progresses. At this moment I have a few questions below.
His stove is going to be between a cabinet (left side) and the wall (right side). Its a 29 7/8" wide stove. How much room of a gap is recommended? We agreed on 1/2 on each side as I am worried about his home being square. Its a very old house. Most of what I read says 30" only leaving 1/8 which doesn't give me any leeway. There is a back door where the door molding is flush with the rest of the wall but later if he decided to add one that stuck out might be an issue sliding the stove in and out but right now it wouldn't be.
On another portion of the kitchen, I have a Lazy Susan corner cabinet, then a dishwasher space, then about 16 inches left to work with. He wants a small cabinet built on the other side of the dishwasher. My question is since it will border a door way how much does a counter top over hand on the end of a cabinet that isn't next to a stove? Is it the standard 1 inch or flush? This will determine how wide a cabinet I build since there isn't a lot of room to work with.
To give you guys an idea of a total layout on the south wall if you were looking at the sink from right to left he will have a stove, a 24" cabinet with nothing but drawers, 48 inch kitchen sink cabinet, and then a 3 foot corner cabinet with a lazy susan. Continuing off that corner cabinet there will be the 24" space for a dish washer, than a cabinet to the left of it ranging from 12-16 inches wide then a doorway.
The only other base cabinets I will install are in the opposite corner from the lazy susan mentioned above. I have about 48 inches to work with on each side of the orner. His fridge is being sunk into the wall (to the right of the corner cabinet) where his old pantry was. I will be using probably maple 3/4 possibly oak plywood. Its pretty much the same price but the reviews for maple were much better than oak ply. If the budget allows I will make raised panel doors, though he seemed ecstatic if I just make shaker doors using plywood.
I will also be making upper cabinets that mirror the lower ones, minus the window above the sink and plus ones above the stove where he will be hanging a microwave.
His budget is around $4,000 for supplies and to pay me. Counter tops aren't included in that. So hopefully that is doable. I'm definitely going to need advice through out the project if the budget allows it so I would appreciate any and all help from you guys.