Laser Cut Router Templates - 1/4" Acrylic

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fordcraftsmanstudios

Discussion Starter · Nov 8, 2005

I do a lot of laser cutting for manufacturers and have begun to make stencils and assorted other things for retail.

I'm always using scrap acrylic to make router templates for projects of mine. I made a template about a year ago for cutting slots in frames and decided to put one of them on ebay a couple of months ago. I have since sold several.

I was thinking about making more templates for sale and wanted to hit up the router using community to see what would be of interest. I have made all kinds of things for myself but they are usually very specific to a project.

I also wanted to get everybody's input on the routing methods preferred. I have this addiction to spiral cutting bits so I usually use a 1/4" bit with a 3/8" collar. My guides tend to be 1/16" wider than necessary all the way around to accomodate the collar. What is your preference...bearing guide or a collar?

I appreciate your input and guidance.

David

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kp91

· #2 · Nov 9, 2005

What type of laser are you using? I asked the epilog guy at one of the trade shows and he was unsure how clean of an edge 1/4 in thru cuts would leave. What other materials have you tried cutting templates out of?

I prefer to use guide bushings for templates that are going to be used over and over. I've had too many times when using a bearing guided pattern bit that I have damaged the template. It is much harder to do that with a guide bushing.

Depending on what I'm doing, I use different size combinations of guides and bits. For edge work, I usually use a 1/2 in bit and a 1 in guide. This makes calculating offsets pretty easy.

karincorbin

· #3 · Nov 9, 2005

I prefer the bearing bit for small scaled pieces. It saves the step of centering and aligning a collar. On a small piece even a thousandth of an inch off center is an issue.

karincorbin

· #4 · Nov 9, 2005

I also use an Epilog laser to make jigs. It does not produce a completely smooth edge, there are tiny hills and valleys.

mantelmaker

· #5 · Nov 10, 2005

3d templates

I have used the Jasada 3D system to carve designs into solid wood. The pattern is flipped and rotated a total of 4 times to mirror the image. After a couple of uses, I seem to need to repair the template. The templates are 3/4 inch MDF and with a beveled guide bearing they just don't hold there shape. Just wondering if acrylic would work better. Bob

template tom

· #6 · Nov 10, 2005

mantelmaker said:
I have used the Jasada 3D system to carve designs into solid wood. The pattern is flipped and rotated a total of 4 times to mirror the image. After a couple of uses, I seem to need to repair the template. The templates are 3/4 inch MDF and with a beveled guide bearing they just don't hold there shape. Just wondering if acrylic would work better. Bob

Try 12mm MDF laminated both sides
Tom

fordcraftsmanstudios

Discussion Starter · #7 · Dec 16, 2005

Doug,

I use a Universal Laser and have very good results. The key is to use plenty of power and a high pulse rate. If you look at the cut edge, it's extremely smooth. I cut lots of router templates and cutting templates for quilters.

I have also cut templates from wood but the acrylic is by far the best material for laser cutting templates.

When I was looking at buying my laser, I talked to just about every manufacturer out there including the Epilog guys. One of their guys who does a lot of trade shows was really lacking in knowledge so I would take it with a grain of salt. The Epilog lasers are very capable and I cut 1/4" acrylic with one when I was testing and it worked just fine. I kept catching their sales guy in errors on things he said and he just seemed to be making things up, too.

I almost always use a collar for my templates. I am a big fan of 1/4" spiral cutting bits with a 3/8" collar. Bearings can be too iffy and sure can screw things up when you lose a bearing. Collars never wear out! Of course, if it's small detailed work then you may need to go smaller. I have made several templates out of 1/8" acrylic for inlay work around the inlay collar/bit kit Rockler sells.

David

kp91 said:
What type of laser are you using? I asked the epilog guy at one of the trade shows and he was unsure how clean of an edge 1/4 in thru cuts would leave. What other materials have you tried cutting templates out of?

I prefer to use guide bushings for templates that are going to be used over and over. I've had too many times when using a bearing guided pattern bit that I have damaged the template. It is much harder to do that with a guide bushing.

Depending on what I'm doing, I use different size combinations of guides and bits. For edge work, I usually use a 1/2 in bit and a 1 in guide. This makes calculating offsets pretty easy.

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fordcraftsmanstudios

Discussion Starter · #8 · Dec 16, 2005

Yep, the acrylic would work a lot better. I build a lot of frames from quarter sawn white oak and cut slots in the back. I made a template for cutting the slots and have cut hundreds of slots with the same template.

I started selling this template on eBay and have sold lots of them. One of my customers started using it in his framing shop and has since bought several more so everybody in the shop will have their own (they started fighting over the first one).

It's extremely hard material and wears well. It's the same stuff that they make bulletproof glass out of (Plexiglas is the name most people probably know).

David

mantelmaker said:
I have used the Jasada 3D system to carve designs into solid wood. The pattern is flipped and rotated a total of 4 times to mirror the image. After a couple of uses, I seem to need to repair the template. The templates are 3/4 inch MDF and with a beveled guide bearing they just don't hold there shape. Just wondering if acrylic would work better. Bob

reible

· #9 · Dec 17, 2005

fordcraftsmanstudios said:
Yep, the acrylic would work a lot better. I build a lot of frames from quarter sawn white oak and cut slots in the back. I made a template for cutting the slots and have cut hundreds of slots with the same template.

I started selling this template on eBay and have sold lots of them. One of my customers started using it in his framing shop and has since bought several more so everybody in the shop will have their own (they started fighting over the first one).

It's extremely hard material and wears well. It's the same stuff that they make bulletproof glass out of (Plexiglas is the name most people probably know).

David

Hi,
How about a little fyi....... "bullet proof glass" is as defined:

"Different manufacturers make different variations of bullet-resistant glass, but it is basically made by layering a polycarbonate material between pieces of ordinary glass in a process called lamination. This process creates a glass-like material that is thicker than normal glass. Polycarbonate is a tough transparent plastic -- often known by the brand name Lexan, Tuffak or Cyrolon. Bullet-resistant glass is between 7 millimeters and 75 millimeters in thickness. A bullet fired at a sheet of bullet-resistant glass will pierce the outside layer of the glass, but the layered polycarbonate-glass material is able to absorb the bullet's energy and stop it before it exits the final layer."

Now Polycaronate is not the same material as Plexiglas which is an acrylic. You can get "impact modified grades" of acrylic but you can also get grades that if dropped will break....... a matter of material selection.

If you want some general information on plastic sheet good check out:
www.rplastics.com
or for some trade names:
www.tdlplastics.com/products.htm

Ed

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bobj3

· #10 · Jul 6, 2006

Hi David

Nice looking template

and at a good price.
I use the brass guide when every I can..

http://cgi.ebay.com/Slot-Cutting-Ro...8174971QQihZ017QQcategoryZ20781QQcmdZViewItem

Bj

NewMontanaWorkshop

· #11 · Jul 7, 2006

fordcraftsmanstudios said:
I was thinking about making more templates for sale and wanted to hit up the router using community to see what would be of interest. I have made all kinds of things for myself but they are usually very specific to a project.

David

David,
I have been looking for a more 'robust' set of templates for making signs of various sizes. I looked at the milescraft set, but was looking for more variety as far as sizes.
Have you considered making templates for that type of use?

Thanks.

Hamlin

· #12 · Jul 7, 2006

David, would making one for each, (bearing and collar), be much of a problem? That way you have both covered.

bobj3

· #13 · Jul 8, 2006

Ken and NewMontanaWrokshop

You may need to go to his eBay store front to get some feed back from David, he posted this in Nov.2005, I found it the forum just looking around...

Bj

dkliman

· #14 · Jul 15, 2006

where do i get a template?

hi,

I just photographed some oak leaves that i want to use to cut holes in 3/4" pine for soffet vents. I haven't made a template before, but i was thinking an acrylic one would be perfect.

I was hoping i could send my file to a laser guy who could then make me my template..

i have a porter cable template guide kit and can use any sized brass guide. as for spiral bits, i was planning on buying one anyway. i have to cut dozens of these holes. they are about 3" across.

what i don't know is what i'm supposed to do to this line drawing to adjust for the template guide and so forth. so any quick assistance with that would be appreciated.

-Dave

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wrestlingstud13

· #15 · Feb 26, 2009

is anyone still looking at this forum? I need a template cut but the replies date back to 2005 and 06...can anyone help me out by making a template out of acrylic? Much appriciated!

bobj3

· #16 · Feb 26, 2009 (Edited)

Hi wrestlingstud13

Drop a email to
Ford Craftsman Studios, a forum member

http://www.routerforums.com/members/...dios-6085.html
http://www.routerforums.com/jigs-fixtures/1771-laser-cut-router-templates-1-4-acrylic.html

he has the equipment to make what you want

He also has items on eBay for sale ..

========

wrestlingstud13 said:
is anyone still looking at this forum? I need a template cut but the replies date back to 2005 and 06...can anyone help me out by making a template out of acrylic? Much appriciated!

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wrestlingstud13

· #17 · Feb 27, 2009

thanks bob

P8tr10t

· #18 · Apr 13, 2022

fordcraftsmanstudios said:
I do a lot of laser cutting for manufacturers and have begun to make stencils and assorted other things for retail.

I'm always using scrap acrylic to make router templates for projects of mine. I made a template about a year ago for cutting slots in frames and decided to put one of them on ebay a couple of months ago. I have since sold several.

I was thinking about making more templates for sale and wanted to hit up the router using community to see what would be of interest. I have made all kinds of things for myself but they are usually very specific to a project.

I also wanted to get everybody's input on the routing methods preferred. I have this addiction to spiral cutting bits so I usually use a 1/4" bit with a 3/8" collar. My guides tend to be 1/16" wider than necessary all the way around to accomodate the collar. What is your preference...bearing guide or a collar?

I appreciate your input and guidance.

David

I would be very interested in positive and negative state templates to use on cutting boards

PhilBa

· #19 · Apr 13, 2022

P8tr10t said:
I would be very interested in positive and negative state templates to use on cutting boards

You may be waiting a while - the post you responded to is 17 years old.

FWIW, templates for really detailed stuff are kind of a challenge because your bushing and bit sizes will limit how much detail you can get. The better way to go is to do "Zank" inlays (aka VCarved Inlays) with a CNC machine. That allows you to get very sharp detail. Here's a tray I did with a Zank inlay. The tray is 13" x 8", inlay is 5"x4"

Wood Serveware Wood stain Natural material Tableware

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jw2170

· #20 · Apr 13, 2022

G'day @P8tr10t , welcome to the forum.

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