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Just great work Bill. Ruth Buzy would love the first one. Back to painting the fence for me.
 

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Thank you for the kind words Bill... *S*

The 'bumps' on the deco sides was done on the router table. Just repeated passed at 1/4" intervals with a pointy bit. then laid into the sides of the box. As for the joinery on the box, for the lid I went with lap joints. Very simple to make on the router table or tablesaw. I like the router table more, it tends to leave behind a much smoother finish. I went with lapped joints to expose more endgrain, thereby tying the lid in with the body of the box. I used a stopped rabbet on the inside edges and then squared them away with a chisel. leaving behind about a 1/4" recess to lay top panel into place. Its not unlike making a picture frame with the panel being the center piece. I finished off the joinery by running the "frame" on the table saw set at an angle. I have no idea what angle *L*, I just tilted the blade until I thought it looked good...got any more questions, don't hesitate to ask..


All four of them sing out 'splendid craftsmanship' to me. The one for your grandson is the one that I would be most inclined to try to build myself. I am curious how you went about crafting in the bumps on the deco side inlays. I'm also curious about the joinery you used on the outer portion of the top. Panel construction is an aspect of woodworking that I am itching to explore. By that I mean making a panel by constructing a 4 piece frame that encloses what ever the inner portion of the panel turns out to be.
 

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Thank You John.....

I humbly submit that they do all like them. The problem comes when they get company and then get asked "where, who,,,,etc.." and its is followed by more often than not by..."can he, would he, does he.....etc.."...*L*..

Awesome job!!!!!!! I'm sure your family will love them. :yes4:
 

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Thank you for the kind words Jim. She really did like the box when we gave it to her..I'm thinking that this inlay stuff has a huge amount of potential for custom work...and the great thing is that it is quite affordable..

Some very nice work there, Bill. I absolutely love the box for your daughter.
 

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Holly smokes Mike, where do I begin *L*...ummmmmmm

Thank you for the kind words...*S* ohhhhhhhh annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnddddd

the comments *S*..

Actually I can see exactly what you are saying and really have to agree to a certain extent on the last box. But there is a bit of a story behind it. My grandson like to come down to my shop and tinker around with me. when he found out I was making him a box, the first thing he wanted to do was PAINT it....Ohhhh NO< NO< NO< says I..we don't paint wood down here I told him...:no::no::no::no::no:
Well needless to say, that completely bummed him out...*L* so, I said, lets make a deal, instead of painting it, you can pick out what you would like to to do with it. The top matches the top of a dresser and picture frame I made for him last year, the sides should have been clairo walnut to match the drawer fronts to his dresser, but he wanted to use the oak..he liked the rays *S*, so I had to put some walnut in there somewhere, so i suggested 3 panels, he said OK, but make them bumpy...I asked why, he said cuz...welp, thats all it took for me to say ok to that. So I do agree somewhat that the box is a bit busy, but all in all I feel it came out quite nicely. Once its sits atop his dresser with the pinknot cherry top,,, I think it will fit in very well.

I must agree with you on the inlay work,,,the more I play around, the easier it gets. I've found an xacto knife to be the best cutting tool so far, but have ordered a carbon steel scalpel to give a try...


Hi Bill,

I love them all!

I like the contrasting woods and the raised cross on the first box.

I like the shape of the second box, and the inlay went very well with your choice of wood for the box.

The inlay work you did on the box for your daughter looks nice and again choice of woods was excellent. The more you do inlay of your own the more fun you'll have and the possibilities are endless.

The last box has quite a bit going on there, almost too much for my taste. That raised panel you made for the top was a great choice of wood, you really let the beauty of the wood show through, but I think the panel could have stood on it's own without the raised effect. The box joints being left proud of the faces is a good look and showcases the end grain of the wood. Then there is the raised checker board panels you added on the sides and front, good looking on their own but kind of over kill. Those things said, over all, real nice work on all the individual elements that went into this box, just think there were too many ideas used at one time. I'm sure you grandson will love the box and always think of you when he looks at it.

Good work!

Thanks for posting the pictures and I look forward to seeing more of your work,
 

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John.. always appreciate a kind word from you....

don't be going an dating yourself by bringing ole ruth buzzy into this *LOL*.

and I refuse to admit I know what your referring to...*S*


Just great work Bill. Ruth Buzy would love the first one. Back to painting the fence for me.
 

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Most excellent. My wife likes and collects boxes. She saw these, and like everyone else we both said wow. Hope to please here by doing something like this one day. I`m just
getting started though. Nice work.

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Actually I can see exactly what you are saying and really have to agree to a certain extent on the last box. But there is a bit of a story behind it. My grandson like to come down to my shop and tinker around with me. when he found out I was making him a box, the first thing he wanted to do was PAINT it....Ohhhh NO< NO< NO< says I..we don't paint wood down here I told him...:no::no::no::no::no:

I must agree with you on the inlay work,,,the more I play around, the easier it gets. I've found an xacto knife to be the best cutting tool so far, but have ordered a carbon steel scalpel to give a try...
Hi Bill,

So your grandson helped his grandpa design the box, how can I argue with that!!!!:cray:
Hopefully one day he will understand why you don't want to paint your boxes. It's great when the kids or grand kids take an interest in your hobby, it makes it that much more enjoyable.

Like you say i find that an x-acto knife is the best tool to cut veneer inlay with. I haven't tried a scalpel so let me know how it works.

Work safe, Have fun,
 

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Howdy Russ,,, and thank you for the kind words. I am constantly amazed at just how people react and like boxes.. For me, the biggest thing is to just do em for the fun of it and the reactions they get. That and there is just an endless number of ways to put a box together....Just getting started, learn from you mistakes, Like HarrySin says, make features out of them when you can... and enjoy...


Most excellent. My wife likes and collects boxes. She saw these, and like everyone else we both said wow. Hope to please here by doing something like this one day. I`m just
getting started though. Nice work.

Russ
 

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He sure did Mike.. and that makes it even more speical..He's at an age now, th at I do hope he remembers all about it 50 years from now :) He loves to tinker down in the shop...using little more than some of my more "disposable" hand tools *L*..but he has gotten on the drill press supervised and just thinks its the coolest thing goin'.
I do hope we have another woodworker in the works...

as for the scalpels... I've tried a couple from the bay that I ordered. very sharp, don't seem to last as long as the x-acto's and considerably more flimsy/flexable. Not really a big fan. However, this guy:

Paul Schurch Woodwork, veneer, marquetry, furniture, seminars, tools, supplies

has been my source for alot of tools and he does handle the carbon steel scalpels. Reasonably priced... I have 2 ordered to give em a go.


Hi Bill,

So your grandson helped his grandpa design the box, how can I argue with that!!!!:cray:
Hopefully one day he will understand why you don't want to paint your boxes. It's great when the kids or grand kids take an interest in your hobby, it makes it that much more enjoyable.

Like you say i find that an x-acto knife is the best tool to cut veneer inlay with. I haven't tried a scalpel so let me know how it works.

Work safe, Have fun,
 

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Thank you for the kind words Bill... *S*
I definitely have a thing for making boxes and the quality of your work blended with the manner in which you share your work & experience inspire both kind words and my urge to 'create'.

The 'bumps' on the deco sides was done on the router table.
So far so good on trying to copy your masterpiece. Router Table(s) are among the many things picked up during the last year of 'intense' woodworkin'.

Just repeated passed at 1/4" intervals with a pointy bit. then laid into the sides of the box.
That doesn't sound too far beyond my experience level on tables. Did you use a feather boarded fence to hold it down/guide it? I have been fooling around with feather boards on my TS, but haven't got around to making the fences that can use them for my Router tables yet.

As for the joinery on the box, for the lid I went with lap joints.
Absolute music to my ears! Largely on account of it's simplicity, hands down, lap joints are the most common joint I use.

Very simple to make on the router table or tablesaw.
My first were cut with a stacked dado on a TS. I have used the same blade set on my RAS also to do laps and rabbets. I tried a few on the router table as well.


I like the router table more, it tends to leave behind a much smoother finish.
Smoothness of the cut was what I did like about doing laps on a RT. I am right in the middle of experimenting with specialty planes for use in joinery. In the last two months I have put a Stanley 39 (1/2"), 45, 46, 75, 98, 99, 148 & 271 to different types of wood (Cedar, Fir, Hickory and Oak) in the learning process. Some of those are models are more about tongue & groove matching than just a rabbet or a lap. With the help of ebay, several more models are allready on the way!

I went with lapped joints to expose more endgrain, thereby tying the lid in with the body of the box.
This box is a great example of how it's possible to have fun and get great results showing the end grain off (as opposed to hiding it).


I used a stopped rabbet on the inside edges and then squared them away with a chisel. leaving behind about a 1/4" recess to lay top panel into place.
Chisels, I have been using them more than ever before it seems (Perhaps a side affect of my falling into the 'pit of planes' on eBay)

Its not unlike making a picture frame with the panel being the center piece.
A great example of the geometric concept. I hope to take that a littler further than cabinet doors, box tops and picture frames. I want to see how sturdy of results I can get using this style panel as the sidewalls in light duty cabinetry (both storage and display.)

I finished off the joinery by running the "frame" on the table saw set at an angle.
Doing so gave it quite the bold edge contour. It hadn't occurred to me yet, but my appreciation for the triangular aspects of 'Horse Nose' style trim cut is part of why I just loved the way that box looks on first sight.

I have no idea what angle *L*, I just tilted the blade until I thought it looked good...
Now that's my kind of 'flowing with it' design decision!

got any more questions, don't hesitate to ask..
Do you have anything you want to share about the plane at the bottom of your posts? It looks more like a Veritas than a Stanley at first glance (I have never seen a Stanley with two bolts in the tote), but could actually be a 'customized' creation of your own. I'm thinking it's about #4 sized and clearly a low angle style unit.

Thanks for putting so much time into everyone's responses in this thread!
 

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I definitely have a thing for making boxes and the quality of your work blended with the manner in which you share your work & experience inspire both kind words and my urge to 'create'.

Holly smokes Bill... Talk about your ego builders. My head exploded twice...


So far so good on trying to copy your masterpiece. Router Table(s) are among the many things picked up during the last year of 'intense' woodworkin'.

I'm no where near as skilled as some of the folks around here with a router, and freely admit it. BUT I do have to say that a good router table is a fine investment. The versatility that a good router setup offers is pretty hard to beat.



That doesn't sound too far beyond my experience level on tables. Did you use a feather boarded fence to hold it down/guide it? I have been fooling around with feather boards on my TS, but haven't got around to making the fences that can use them for my Router tables yet.


I rarely use feather boards. and that is MY BAD!!!! If you got em, USE EM,,, if you don't got em,,, GET EM...



Absolute music to my ears! Largely on account of it's simplicity, hands down, lap joints are the most common joint I use.

I agree, lap joints are quit simple, and exceptionally strong when glued up. I find endgrain to be very attractive when sanded and finished off properly. If you note the country box with the flowers, the endgrain work was so/so. My bad, was in a hurry to finish the box and rather than take a few more minutes, I thought good enough would do.....hind sight as they say....



My first were cut with a stacked dado on a TS. I have used the same blade set on my RAS also to do laps and rabbets. I tried a few on the router table as well.

I used lap joints when building my shop counters with 2x4's. I built it to use it and I'm not afraid to whale on it...to date, not a single failure, nothing even close..

Smoothness of the cut was what I did like about doing laps on a RT. I am right in the middle of experimenting with specialty planes for use in joinery. In the last two months I have put a Stanley 39 (1/2"), 45, 46, 75, 98, 99, 148 & 271 to different types of wood (Cedar, Fir, Hickory and Oak) in the learning process. Some of those are models are more about tongue & groove matching than just a rabbet or a lap. With the help of ebay, several more models are allready on the way!



ahhhhhhhhh a fellow neander in the making :). very high on my list of things i'd like to get are a couple of good shoulder planes. IMHO there is nothing as satisfying as getting results from using hand tools that are just as good as anything with a plug could have created....



This box is a great example of how it's possible to have fun and get great results showing the end grain off (as opposed to hiding it).




Chisels, I have been using them more than ever before it seems (Perhaps a side affect of my falling into the 'pit of planes' on eBay)

its all about the steel brother!! once you get good quality steel, then learn to put an edge on....its all down hill :)...



A great example of the geometric concept. I hope to take that a littler further than cabinet doors, box tops and picture frames. I want to see how sturdy of results I can get using this style panel as the sidewalls in light duty cabinetry (both storage and display.)

I do believe you will find the results most satisfactory. I've a couple cabinet doors I did with lap joints and they have held up quite well. Of course, there is no "load" applied. When in doubt a couple of nicely placed dowels or pins ie. Green and Green style would certainly boost shear strength...


Doing so gave it quite the bold edge contour. It hadn't occurred to me yet, but my appreciation for the triangular aspects of 'Horse Nose' style trim cut is part of why I just loved the way that box looks on first sight.

Really nothing special, but its the little things like that, that anyone can do, that takes it to another level...


Now that's my kind of 'flowing with it' design decision!

Sometimes its "flowing with it" and sometimes its just plain lazy.. *L*..



Do you have anything you want to share about the plane at the bottom of your posts? It looks more like a Veritas than a Stanley at first glance (I have never seen a Stanley with two bolts in the tote), but could actually be a 'customized' creation of your own. I'm thinking it's about #4 sized and clearly a low angle style unit.

The plane is a LV BU smoother. that and a really good block plane are two can't do withouts. I love it. Takes a edge well, holds it even better, great with difficult figured woods. Small enough for alot of touchup work, still small enough to be very handy. I am thoroughly sold on the LV product line..


Thanks for putting so much time into everyone's responses in this thread!
My Pleasure!!!! :) :) :)
 

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I like building boxes myself, and I have to say, these are some SWEET boxes! Wish I had time to build more.

Keep up the great gift of giving hand crafted items and taking to time to share them with everyone.
 

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Thank you for the kind words Darrin. They are always well received!
 
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