Letter stencil inlays

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Mickeyfolse

Discussion Starter · Feb 27, 2019

Here’s another project I’ve been working on for a while now. Trying to make a set of stencils for 1.25” letters in something more than a basic block font. The picture is the letter M stencil card, the little positioning system i use, and the results it all produces. You just inlay the pieces in the order written on the card. I didn’t bother making the inlay piece as i figure it’ll fit just right by default. I just needed to see that the stencil card works because i didn’t have an M yet.

I know adobe illustrator has the “expand path” function, which would save me about 80% of the time it takes to make each of these cards. If anyone knows of an app i can use on an iPad Pro I’m all ears and willing to pay for the app.

All i need to do is import a font, break the shape of the letter into its appropriate parts to accommodate an inlay kit, then expand the path and print the individual parts on their own page. The advantage to this, i believe, is i can get the individual parts of each letter printed in the same spot relative to the corner of the page, then simple align my paper with the stencil card and trace it with carbon paper. The time saved is in trying to get each piece cut out in precisely the right place on the card.

As i complete different sets in different sizes, etc, I’d be happy to post the digital files here for y’all to have. Y’all have helped me more than you know. Mostly before i joined though.

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sreilly

· #2 · Feb 27, 2019

Interesting approach Mickey. I haven't done any inlay other than a few exercises at a Woodcraft router class. Looks like making these stencils is a long laborious process. Am I correct that you would use a razor knife to cut the inlay from a pattern? Would love to see a finished example.

Mickeyfolse

Discussion Starter · #3 · Feb 27, 2019

sreilly said:
Interesting approach Mickey. I haven't done any inlay other than a few exercises at a Woodcraft router class. Looks like making these stencils is a long laborious process. Am I correct that you would use a razor knife to cut the inlay from a pattern? Would love to see a finished example.

What i do is set up a compass to match the offset of my inlay kit. Then trace around the design lightly scratching the paper to show the new outline. Then trace that outline lightly with a pencil. Afterwards you can trace the new outline onto your wood with carbon paper and cut it out with your scroll saw or router.

The real trick is proper placement of the various parts of each letter onto the stencil card. Most letters need to be broken down into smaller parts to accommodate the “donut” on your inlay kit. It also helps with aesthetics because you can change wood grain directions with different pieces.

Yes, it’s very time consuming. Often times an hour or so spent making a single stencil card, and you won’t know it’s a bad one till you cut it out, AND put the router in it. But the good news is most times a little extra sanding can smooth things out.

There is a program called adobe illustrator that can do this if you’re inclined to buy it and learn it. I believe you can pay $30/ month for a subscription to it. It’s not cheap to buy the program. I’m all ears if someone knows an app that can be used on an iPad Pro to do this. The advantage is all your outlines would be perfect, and you can print them out and they’d all be in the same location on the page relative to the corner of the page. Then you just line up the corner of your page to the corner of the stencil card and things are automatically aligned properly for you.

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sreilly

· #4 · Feb 27, 2019

I gave up on Adobe when it became a subscription based software. I used Photoshop extensively in my earlier days on my astronomy images and decided to buy the latest released version after the subscription base program came into effect. If an older version of Illustrator can do what you want you may still find a place that it can be purchased legally and then own that copy for that set price. It may be too long ago now but worth a look. I did that with Photoshop and use PS CS5 when needed. I'm still limited to two active installs on any two computers per their licensing structure.

Mickeyfolse

Discussion Starter · #5 · Feb 27, 2019

Knowing where to split the letters can be tricky. Sometimes it’s out of necessity and other times it can be your choice.

In the L below, the loop on the bottom was tough. Your inlay kit can’t duplicate that tight a radius. So i split it at the smallest point inside the radius. I don’t like “blunt” or “90deg” splits, but i couldn’t figure out another way to do it. You can see where the two pieces will overlap each other. Don’t try to get it matched perfectly, you’ll likely miss.

On the O, the split is in a spot of my choosing but it had to be split due to the lines on the top of the design being too close to each other, even on 6” high letters. The shape is the split looks much nicer like this than it does in the L.

The B needed to be in three pieces. One reason is the small overlap on the inside, top center. Another reason is the sharp “inside point” on the front center of the letter. You can’t make theses at all with an inlay kit so it will apply to any letter that has an inside point.

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Mickeyfolse

Discussion Starter · #6 · Feb 27, 2019

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Mickeyfolse

Discussion Starter · #7 · Feb 27, 2019

I can always bum my daughter MacBook if i ever decide to subscribe to Illustrator. I’m thinking i can knock out a TON of various fonts and sizes in a month. At least on paper and digitally. Then i can just print them whenever i feel like or need to make the stencil cards.

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Tagwatts

· #8 · Feb 27, 2019

I do not know if this may help you or not. There is a program "Rapid Resizer", that I have used for making larger stencils. I think there is a free version. This is a link you may look a,t see if it is of any value to you.

https://www.rapidresizer.com/home/2...21_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_44d951

Mickeyfolse

Discussion Starter · #9 · Feb 28, 2019

I didn't realize it till now but I've used this before. I used it to print out various things to use as a guide for carving signs.

Unless I'm missing something it doesn't do what's required to accommodate an inlay kit. I can't use an identical, bigger version of a letter. I need the outline expanded by the same amount all around it. This leaves you with a final shape that's only kinda similar to the original shape.

Also, whether its due to the size of the letter, or just the shape on the letter, i need the ability to break the letter into the individual "lines" that form it. See the pictures of the stencils above.

Again, if I'm missing something with RapidResizer, please explain.

JOAT

· #10 · Feb 28, 2019

Damn, you guys make me feel like a neo-Luddite at times. The only things I copy and use as is are fonts, found a site that pretty well covers all the font styles I care for. Otherwise I rough sketch whatever out freehand, then finalize it.

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Mickeyfolse

Discussion Starter · #11 · Mar 6, 2019

JOAT said:
Damn, you guys make me feel like a neo-Luddite at times. The only things I copy and use as is are fonts, found a site that pretty well covers all the font styles I care for. Otherwise I rough sketch whatever out freehand, then finalize it.

Believe me, i freehand draw a lot as well. But with text, even small errors are so easily noticeable. I like them to be drawn as perfectly as possible.... because there’s no doubt my scroll saw cuts will be less than perfect!

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JOAT

· #12 · Mar 6, 2019

Mickeyfolse said:
Believe me, i freehand draw a lot as well. But with text, even small errors are so easily noticeable. I like them to be drawn as perfectly as possible.... because there’s no doubt my scroll saw cuts will be less than perfect!

I don't normally draw numbers out. I print them, glue them to a piece of 1/2" plywood, scrollsaw close to the line, then sand to the line, which gives me a usable number. If I screw one up, just redo. Then I glue the cutout one to another piece, rout around that, and that is my master. I can then tack it down, to 1/2" plywood, and clone exact copies all day long. If I want a different size, I repeat the whole process. As far as I recall I have never done this with letters, only numbers. Works for me.

Mickeyfolse

Discussion Starter · #13 · Mar 7, 2019

You are dong something very different than i am. For carving, I'd do what you do. When using a router inlay kit, it's not that simple, unless you do it freehand every time. You have to account for the offset of the kit you're using.

JOAT

· #14 · Mar 7, 2019

Mickeyfolse said:
You are dong something very different than i am. For carving, I'd do what you do. When using a router inlay kit, it's not that simple, unless you do it freehand every time. You have to account for the offset of the kit you're using.

It's all me, I don't use a router inlay kit, whatever extra I need I figure it out and do it.

Mickeyfolse

Discussion Starter · #15 · Mar 7, 2019

JOAT said:
It's all me, I don't use a router inlay kit, whatever extra I need I figure it out and do it.

There’s definitely a satisfaction that comes with doing it all freehand. But with letters and numbers which might be used again several times it just saves time to make a stencil and use a kit. And hey, the stencil is made and cut freehand, so there’s that.

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JOAT

· #16 · Mar 7, 2019

Mickeyfolse said:
There’s definitely a satisfaction that comes with doing it all freehand. But with letters and numbers which might be used again several times it just saves time to make a stencil and use a kit. And hey, the stencil is made and cut freehand, so there’s that.

Letters, numbers, whatever, if I want make more than one, I make a master. With that I can precisely duplicate whatever, time after time. I would not call them stencils, as they are 1" thick, but can serve the same purpose, for routing numbers, or painting them. These are not for really small numbers, for painting, for that I "would" make a stencil, but I don't care to make anything I can't use a router with, and don't need an kit.

Mickeyfolse

Discussion Starter · #17 · Mar 25, 2019

Here’s another set of letter templates I’ve been working on. I made this piece to give away at a family reunion I’m organizing.
I included a photo of one of the nine total template cards required for these five letters.
The materials are Purpleheart inlay on a cedar background.

Currently looking for ideas on finishing. There are some slight improvements i can make to the template cards, and my letter spacing needs some work, but otherwise I’m pleased and i think it’ll look very nice once a finishing coat and a border or edge work is added.

Incidentally i don’t have a piece wide enough to finish the S but it should arrive by mail today.

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Mickeyfolse

Discussion Starter · #18 · Mar 25, 2019

Forgot to add the pic of one of the stencil cards. This one makes up part of the letter O.

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routafinger

· #19 · Mar 26, 2019

Mickeyfolse said:
Forgot to add the pic of one of the stencil cards. This one makes up part of the letter O.

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Damn! That's some really nice finished work. My 1st attempt at an inlay (previous thread in this section) was a simple rectangular shape. I made the template 4 times before I was satisfied (or burned out), and the end result still had some extremely small gaps, but still gaps. I think it will take me many more attempts before I can conquer the process.

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