Perhaps a shot of the rear may give us a clue.

 

This is the actual door that we were told we were going to get. Is this a cheaper, easier way to do this. Thanks for any input.



My wife and I work hard for our money and we are pretty upset with this.

Thank you for your time.

Having a little trouble putting pictures on this forum.I'm new.

 

IMO, it appears that your cabinet guy built conventional tenoned doors, routed, then applied molding.

He may not have had the ability or tools to build them correctly.

As a remodeler I'd expect to be asked to discount or re-do the work to the spec.

 

hi

 

I posted a picture of what we were suppose to get but I think the Moderator has to approve it.We are so disapointed. We trusted our contractor (installer) who highly recomended this cabinet maker. Others have told us this was done wrong and looks cheap.
Thanks for your input
Scott

 

Others have said the same. I don't understand how he says he has been doing this for 30 years and does not have the correct tools. The contractor brought a door from his shop (that he said he made) and we also pulled a door from our bathroom to show him exactly what we wanted. I think this is a cheap easier way that he was hoping to get away with.

Thanks for your input
Scott

 

From the looks of the one corner, he started with a long piece of molding, cut a notch at the corner and bent the molding to a 90 degree.
Very sloppy.
Gene

 

This is another picture of his work.
Before I got all this information. I asked the cabinet maker why the corners were round and looked bad. This cabinet maker said " I don't have a clue of what you are talking about" And my contractor (who highly reccomended him) wants to know what this cabinet maker did wrong?

 

That doesn't look like molding to me. It looks as if the door was made, the rails and stiles joined and then it was routed by going around the whole inside of the rails and stiles. This would be a quick way to do it. I have seen it before on the type of cabinets you can buy from a factory.

~Julie~

 

Julie, assuming that all corners have that nick, wouldn't it rule out having been gone around with a router which would leave a round corner. I would still like to see a shot of the REAR which I think may give a clue.

 

hi

 

i know this thread said modified shaker doors, but i thought all shaker doors had 90 degree angles and sharp edges with no angles or decorative edge dressings?

 

I would definitely demand repairs and or discounted fee's.
That's not a shaker style at all. That's not even remotely close IMHO. ( infact I have never seen a cabinet door listed under a standard practice available style that has rounded corners available from a cabinet maker. That sort of thing is mainly seen by mass produced production companies off an assembly line.)
Shaker style is a square frame surrounding a panel with no routed shaping or molding at all. Maybe a chamfer. But that's about it. The style is about straight lines, and clean edges.
I dunnno... I would be miffed at both the builder and the other maker who recommended them and is standing by them.
Don't just eat it. You are the one who has to pay for them, and look at them for remainder of time you live in the house they are installed in. I call bull snot.

I'm picky like that though so..... ?

 

Yeah that's just not right at all. Go back and put your foot down.

 

This is a picture of what we asked for

 

Scott,
What you've posted are NOT Shaker.
Any decently aware woodworker knows that router bits for rails and stiles are readily available for this style.
I would find a few good pics of actual shaker styles and point out the differences and demand replacement doors.
This is disgraceful!
Gene

 

I can't figure out those corner nicks, Harry, maybe they are chip out??
I, too, would like to see the backs.

~Julie~

 

This is what we asked for<img src="http://momentoffame.com/photopost/data/501/medium/this_is_what_we_ordered_2.jpg" />

 

This can be done two ways,

1) Using 1/4-round moldings that are cut and put in place after assembly. These doors would have been constructed using mortise/tenon on the frame then adding moldings to create the molded effect on the back and front.

2) Cut the cope and bead as the true shaker style, then assemble the panel, styles and rails. Next, add the 1/4 round to the front of the doors.

Either way is quite a bit harder to do. I can see where the contractor may have miss-understood your wishes by creating the door the more efficient way. Inexpensive way means not paying attention to the Sharpe finished corners.

Just showing him the door is not necessarily going make the problem his fault...You needed to highlight that the Sharpe edged moldings are an important feature. And you require this as a must have feature.

With that information he would then need to figure the best way to complete the doors with other techniques. I would assume he would have priced those doors quite a bit more. Just for argument sake how many doors are we talking about? And what materials are being used to make the doors?

 

sorry not very good at getting pictures

when I get home I will take a picture of the back

thanks again for all your help

 

 

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Thak you for your help getting my picture posted of what we were suppose to get.

Scott

 

Your Welcome
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How nice to see THE boss of the forum give input, you have been honoured Scott!

 

Harry, regarding with the comments about being the boss. I am the not sure the term boss is right but hey thanks.

I know I have been scarce throughout the past few years. Going forward I will be inputting my thoughts on specific topics and hoping to commit 2 hours a week to the forum.

As for being boss, Mark is really the boss of the Forum. It's been his baby from the beginning and we are grateful for all the support from folks like Harry and BobJ3. Mark and I had decided early that this was a forum for all woodworkers with no barriers because of skill level.

We are at 35,000 members and my only disappointment is that I was hoping to have more input from general membership with either a question, answer or an opinion.

So going forward I hope to be more active and as a New Year resolution I would like to see more participation from members that have posted less than 5 times.

 

I think I speak for all when I say we sure welcome your insight!