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20 pin connector on the front of the shark controller

But the 20 pin connector on the front of the shark controller is for the Next Wave laser module
NOT for controlling a spindle/router.

(Shark was designed to use a Bosch 1617 and 1618 (2.25 hp), Porter-Cable 890 Series (2.25 hp), and DeWalt 610 (1.5 hp), 616 (1.75 hp), 618 (2.25 hp) routers woodworking router (& NOT A VFD SPINDLE) so you are expected to switch on/off and change the RPM at the router itself I suppose)

 

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this is the cable from nextwave that uses the 20 pin connector to control the spindle

View attachment 403763

Read the NOTE in the description of the Cable at

SHOP | Next Wave CNC

www.nextwavecnc.com

From their Website:-
Inverter to Spindle Replacement Cable that connects the spindle motor to the VFD
NOTE: This cable will NOT allow on/off or digitally control the speed of the spindle and is only compatible with the 2HP spindle motors.

From What I understand:-
If and only if, you buy the 3HP Spindle kit, & also buy the custom version of VCarve Pro from them, then Shark will also give you a LICENSED firmware upgrade to your controller to support controlling the 3HP Spindle via software.


"Sharks have big jaws and sharp teeth"

 

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No its just a cable and update the post porcesser, here are the directions for installing the cable, i just dont know what the sr485 data pins are

Why then Next Wave says:
NOTE: This cable will NOT allow on/off or digitally control the speed of the spindle and is only compatible with the 2HP spindle motors.

In your attach document
23. Update your Control Box Firmware per this link:
www.nextwavecnc.com/firmware
Controller Firmware version v4.5.x.x or higher is required.

So you are assuming that you can control via STD ISO G-CODE?
I do hope you are right.

And you don't even need to know the data pins.
Just follow the RED, BLACK and GREEN colors of the cable. Just add a jumper.

So cabling diagram in the document shows that it is using MODBUS (RS485) protocol and NOT the usual AI1 (0-10)V analogue control.

 

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STD RS485 cabling may give some clues. Use Continuity tester to check.

 

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can't you trace with a continuity tester of a multimeter. Use a narrow pin at the 20 pin connection.

 

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The post processor turns my router on or off by editing the post processor file that turns the plug that feeds the router that is in the control box.
this video link shows how I edited the post processor to turn off the spindle or router. Shark HD510

Do you have the pinouts OP is after?

 

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Actually you're wrong. I sell the Sharks, and the 20 pin connector IS used on the front of the control box. They have a 20 pin connector that has a circuit board in the connector and it's connected to the VFD as it comes from Next Wave and directly plugs into the front of the box.

Actually you're wrong. I sell the Sharks, and the 20 pin connector IS used on the front of the control box. They have a 20 pin connector that has a circuit board in the connector and it's connected to the VFD as it comes from Next Wave and directly plugs into the front of the box. You're spreading FALSE information.

Just show the OP the PINOUT
OK I am wrong!

 

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My laser that plugs into the ribbon port on the front of the control box is for laser control. It turns the power on and off to my laser. The post processor for the laser has the spindle on the router turned off so it doesn't turn your laser into a weed eater.

Correct me if I am wrong.
From what I understand, the laser option was available for all models BUT the VFD control via software only available for the HD5 series (models HD500, HD510, HD520).
In the 3HP (2.2KW) VFD kit for HD500, HD510, HD520 it says

• Next Wave CNC’s proprietary digital interface from controller to VFD Remotely controls Spindle Power ON/OFF via G-Code Remotely controls Spindle Speed (RPM) via G-Code

In the 2HP (1.5kw) VFD kit for older models there is no software control, so users will have turn on and control the speed at the VFD console. One user in this forum is trying to sell an extension cord for the VFD inverter's console - only sensible if the Sharks VFD's cannot be controlled by software.

So please stop "beating about the bush".
OP wants a pinout diagram like this (fake one)

 

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i have called next wave and unfortunately they won't sell me the cable and wont give the pinout. Best i can tell they are using a RS485 Serial interface using RS+ ,RS- and GND on the VFD but for the life of me i cant figure out the dada pins. i am honestly considering removing their controller and installing an openbuilds Blackbox X32 controller. i can't stand how hard it is to customize with accessories.

They are selling the 3HP VFD kit for about 300% of market equivalent.
Why would they sell you just a cable?

I had wanted to buy a "CNC Shark" Router years ago from Carbatec in Australia.
Luckily, I am now using a MACH3 system.

(I think the Next Wave CNC controller is/was based on GBRL. So until HD5 Series, they cannot support VFD interface because GBRL was for hobbyists. I am guessing their HD5 is probably using the ARM CPU version of GBRL controller whereas the earlier series were using Arduino based GBRL controller.
I may be wrong).