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I have saw one also but I don't recall where,but I had to LOL when it saw it.
The router can do many things but using for a thickness planing maybe a hard one.

You may want to look around for plans for a belt sander (16" wide belt)
I was going to make one and found all the parts I needed like the parts from a use conveyor belt (made to move boxes up 3ft high lift) from a scrap yard for 25.oo bucks.
With alum.drums and vbelt drive.
Then I sold all the parts to a mate and he made one, DAM and it worked great.

Just a thought
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Just a note.
Cars need to use the floor but some tools can be hung from the rafters and then pulled down in to place when you need to use them.
Garage door springs work great for this type of job. (the old type 2 " dia.ones) or a pull down ladder type setup.
"it looked complicated" but it's not.
Belt sanders are not cheap as you know.

Have a good one.
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"BJ, how fast was your buddy's sander able to take down stock?"

Quick when he use 36grit. paper and real nice with the 150 grit. paper.
He got the sand paper rolls from http://www.Grizzly.com. (H4776 and G2789 and the H4424 )
He use cardboard tubes to make it quick and easy switch out. from Home Depot "carpet cardboard paper tubes" he also tried PVC pipe but that's didn't work to well, to slick on the inside.

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Thanks Joe

That's a neat setup :)
I was going to build the floor model (( http://www.woodcentral.com/cgi-bin/readarticle.pl?dir=powertools&file=articles_528.shtml ))
But I think I will get the 18" kit and the sanding Mob(s).
Neat stuff... :)
I now use the link belts on most of my equipment and they are great. :)

http://www.onlinewoodshow.com/show/company.php?number=20102&cat=1&prod=D1810

http://www.onlinewoodshow.com/show/company.php?number=20102&cat=3&prod=SM600

http://www.stockroomsupply.com/

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https://www.stockroomsupply.com/Drum_Sander_Plans.php


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Will do, the 18" kit and the 6" mob is on the way :)
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Hi Joe

Well I got the kit and the new motor :),it's 90% done and so far it's great I did rework some of it (most of it :) motor mount,motor placement,roller placement,roller mounting,vac.system,power switch,etc.) so I can raise it and lower it with hand crank up font and that has been a real challenge with engineering nightmare using a scisser mechanism and rollers :)

It's works better than my planer and it is 18" wide on top of that :).
I also reworked the cabinet so it's a floor type now.

By the way here's a link to the small mob sanders

Mini Mops
http://www.stockroomsupply.com/The_Mini_Mop.php

http://www.stockroomsupply.com/Products.php


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HI Joe

"you would have to measure after each pass as it gets closer" YES,that would be true because there is not a go or no go gage so to speak like a planer...

"What is the smallest piece you can sand over the top" so far I have use 1/4" thick and 1" wide and about 12" long, you can also use it like a jointer, put sock on it's side and just push it over the drum and it comes out great just like a jointer.

"How do you like your Mop sander" I got the 6" kit and they give you all you need plus some to make a mop for the drill press , but I have not made the mob for the drill press yet still need to find a 1/2" x 4" bolt to use for it, the standard one works great for raised panels and moding plus other jobs.

I killed the scisser mechanism ,about 6:30 AM today and I'm going back to the hinge today sometime, just to much work and it only needs to move up and down about 1/4" max both ways.
I Forgot the base rule make it simple... :) and it took me 2 days to make and weld up the scisser frame , just a bit over kill on that one :) but I can use it for a bike jack :).

Have a nice Thanksgiving also JOE

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Hi Joe
Well here's a small update, it's 99% done but I did run into a error that I need to fix today ,that is a out feed device, after removing stock it needs a small item on the out put side to get it to work right just like a jointer plus I want to add a fence to keep it sq. when I use it like a jointer, I think I'm going to use some black 1/16" thick vinyl stock on the out feed end.

I did rip the sand paper on the drum roller so I need to replace that today ,I wanted to see if I could jam the roller and see what would fail 1st. and now would be the time to fix it. :)
All in all I would give it 4 stars out of 5, I did make a error when I made the top part, I put the slot for the roller on the back side of the top and it should be in the center of the top but I was trying to fix the out feed on the top, :) when you remove stock you need someting to support the new size (thickness) so I made a out feed table top but it's a bit to low, the vinyl should fix that. :)

I will post a picture or two once I have the shop clean again I have wood and tools all over the place on this project. :)

Just a side note, I just got a copy of the Jasper Cir.jig and it's great little hole jig, my son had one at work and made a copy of it by drilling 126 holes in some 1/2" MDF stock.
Then once I got it from him I drilled 32 more holes, for a total of 158 so now it can do 5" to 18 15/16" .

Number 200 type
http://www.soundlabsgroup.com.au/pc/JA-200/Jasper/Sound
http://www.routerforums.com/jigs-fixtures/1265-small-diameter-circles-2.html#post35697

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Hi Joe

Here are some snapshots of the Drum Sander plus a snapshot of the Jasper cir.jig my son drill out the center hole so I put in a plastic plug in with a 3/4" I.D. to use the brass guide, that just drops in the jig, with the plastic insert in place no need to bolt the jig to the router now , it can also be used on the router table by using the brass guide system and no fence needed. :)

Just a note *** by using a bigger brass guide and a vac. pickup on the router the chips will be pulled out the bottom that should help cutting cir. on the router table.


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Hi Joe

Cir.Jig, no I just got lazzy someone ask how to make circles on the router table and I put it in this post and the 1st.time I told him it would be hard but with this jig it's easy with a bigger brass guide and a good vac. system off the base of the router in the table mount, Just lazzy on my part I guess :) :) that I didn't recall who it was for sure :) :) :).

Vac port,just a hole saw will do that quick and easy. :)

Joe just a note**** I had 7 old computer desks around and now I have 6 that's what I used for the sanding drum table to start with. :)

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Hi Joe

I used the Grizzly one below because it was a Enclosed type and it would be working in dust cabinet so to speak,the dust box is just about a 1 1/2 " from the motor,and I rate motors by the amps. they pull that tells me a lot about the motor.
I have a had good luck with Grizzly motors in the pass.

I'm not sure about HF motors I have not used one >.

* Type: Enclosed
* Size: 1/2 HP
* RPM: 1725
* AMPS @ 110V / 220V: 8.8 / 4.4

Full 1 Year Warranty!

http://www.grizzly.com/products/G2528

The sander is working great :), I was going to fire up the joint and the planer and I said OK lets see what this thing can do , Works great for both jobs.
I need to spend more time with it to keep out the snipe out on the end when I come off of it, like most tools, time,time,time with the tool. :)

JOE just a note ,,, the kit will come with 2 pulleys both are 1/2" I.D. so you will need to get a 5/8" I.D. one for the motor you should get a 2" OD one.



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Who knows LOL hahahahahahaha LOL it just did LOL

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Just courious - How did planing with a router evolve into a drum sander?????
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Please let me know.besure to view the DVD b/4 you start, it's not the same as the PDF plans, the one they make (on the DVD) is like a shoe box with the motor that hangs on the front of the sander drum box, it's almost funny but not at a 200.oo price tag.
But it's a small family company but that's ok because the kit is worth it ,but the DVD is funny in a way.
Note the top they cut with the table saw and then note the one they use,it's been done with a router, you can tell by the round ends of the opening for the drum on the back side of the top. :) (45deg. with rounded ends)

Note to sure where to post this, but it's here now so I guess you will see it . :)

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"emailed me asking me of the grit" = same on this end and I did mark the order forum what grit I wanted, but no big deal, I also got the 220grit. on the DVD he removes the 150grit. that comes on the drum and puts on the 220grit. to set it up for the 1st. time.
Like I said it's a funny DVD he just pulls it off like a old rag and then rolls on the new one with a (220) new type of cut on the ends.(sq.cut)not to a sharp point ( funny guy red neck type LOL .) looks like he runs his company out of his big garage.
How to tell if you're a red neck, you sell drum sanders to wood workers on the net hahahahahahaha from suckers.com ,hope not for my part. :)

BUT I think I will rework the plans some day and come up with one that deosn't need the out feed part.
Set it up like a planer, I now have all the parts I need I just need a new set of plans to raise and lower the drum just like a planer.,once one side is flat just flip it over and send it one more time under the drum sander.

But it now works OK for me :)



"1/16" thicker" = I readed the plans over and over to see how to set it up and I could not see how they keep the snipe from coming into play, you know and I know when you remove stock you need something to take it's place.
So I put the drum slot on the back side of the top so I could use the 1/16" stock to fill the void after the stock was removed.
I could not get it right in my head by using a flat top, I could see how it would work if the drum was on the top of the stock but below the stock it blew my mine. :)
Planer jointer thing in my head :)

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Hi Joe

I was thinking about that and you today :) I said he must have it done by now and was looking for his cam. to take a snapshot or two :)

It never fails when you want something now someone drops the ball. :(

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Hi Joe

"Flat top", it's always been a flat top but I did add the formica on the outfeed end 1/16".
"How do you like yours ?" ,great so far still playing with it ,tweak here tweak there but all in all it's OK.

I do play with computers so if I can help just let me know .
I'm always on the link below, under the user name of DEX
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win2000

Let me know how it works out for you :)

NOTE****

I have been playing with the plans a bit,see below ▼
Still working on a hold down roller and maybe a power feed drive with gear box .
But then I may not need a power feed drive just push in and pull it out.:)



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