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Rail and stile panel doors

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#1 ·
I'm new to making panel doors and purchased a Skil, two piece rail and stile bit for my first project. Thought I followed the directions carefully and understood what I would get, but not sure they match. The rails and stiles worked well and fit together nicely. The panel I made fits, but is actually rasied from the face of the frames and is not flush on the back. This also leaves visible groves on the face. Any advide on how to set up the router and bits so the face of the panel is the same as the face of the frame?
Thanks
 
#2 ·
Hi, Steve(?);
I've never made a panelled door but I've installed hundreds of them on cabinets.
I can't recall any where the rail and stile frame wasn't proud of the panel on the backside. I can't see why that should be a problem.
I'm guessing that the panel being proud on the front side is simply a function of the panel thickness that you start with. If your frame is 3/4" material than perhaps the panel should be 5/8" to 1/2" thick(?), or am I misunderstanding your situation?
 
#3 · (Edited)
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Working on from Dan's post, I feel that the rail and style set is just that, for the rails and styles.

Another cutter is required to shape the raised panels. It may be that your rail and style set is designed for use with 1/4" ply panels?

Can you give the part number for the rail and style set, so we can offer more help.

http://www.skiltools.com/accessories/pages/accessories.aspx?cid=3010

http://www.routerforums.com/general-routing/29934-skil-91704-stacked-stile-rail-kit.html

A photo of the groves (grooves?) would also help.
 
#4 ·
Greeting and welcome Steve
If your panel cutter does not have a back cutter the panel will be proud, just adjust panel cutter and you can match the panel groove.
Some people like them proud but can present a problem when cutting a profile on the door edges (this is all just a matter of preference)
If your styles and rails match you have done a good job for your first try
 
#6 ·
thanks for the responses. I went back and put this together dry and I think it's the way it should be. "proud" which I'm guessing means the panel extends somewhat past the surface of the rails & stiles on the front and sits in on the back. I suspect the only way to make the panel flush to the r/s is to use thinner material for the panel. The bit set is Skil #91704, 'stacked stile and rail set with panel cutter.
Steve
Upstate NY, USA
 
#7 ·
Exactly, Steve!
'Proud' is as you suggested. It's a very old expression, and used a lot by woodworkers to convey that condition which you mentioned. I'm not sure there's another word that so simply explains the relationship.
An example might be a dowel plug proud of a panel, meaning it's sitting a bit high.