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No food in my shop...invitation to rodents coming in.
I just carry a thermos mug down, for beverage; no beer in the shop, or anywhere I'm using tools that bite.
exactly...
and a spilled beverage could spell disaster or even catastrophe......


so neither...
 
We are in the high desert, in a "low" spot about 3,000 feet. The yard is landscaped to be like a small, 1 acre forest area with 1500 feet of trails and near 50 tons of rocks and boulders that I personally collected and placed in my younger days. All on drip. A nifty spot, here's a pix of a smidgen of the dry creekthe other is of the seating area. The overhanging trees have grown and there is a bench in there now.
that is 1st rate Tom...
 
I always have a bucket of tea out there (900ml). I have a tea cosy to put over it to keep it from getting cold and getting dust in it. I do find myself forgetting it a lot, so only manage half of it, but it does stay hot longer under the cosy.
 

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I always have a bucket of tea out there (900ml). I have a tea cosy to put over it to keep it from getting cold and getting dust in it. I do find myself forgetting it a lot, so only manage half of it, but it does stay hot longer under the cosy.
Hadn't thought of that. I do have a small microwave to heat things up again. I usually use disposable coffee cups just to make it easy to clean up. Come spring, my wife and I will be sitting out on the island in the morning with coffee and tea and conversation. I semi retire July 1 and will really have a lot more time for woodworking and enjoying the garden, which is really more of a park than a garden.
 
Quoting myself here...
"No food in my shop...invitation to rodents coming in."

Did I tell you the rat story? I did? Too bad; I'm telling it again...
Just before Xmas, our neighbours invited a bunch of us over for drinks.
(These folks live in a rancher style home, built over a crawl space.)
The last two years have been Hell for them, they've had their hardwood floors flooded twice; once requiring a lot of drywall removal, and the second time just the floor had to come out.
They finally got back into their home, maybe mid November.
So, there we are, coming in, taking our shoes off, and coming through the kitchen into the open plan living area.
On my way past the kitchen I notice that the dishwasher is out/missing...can't keep my foot out of my mouth...I casually ask as to why?
Frosty look directed at Mr. Neighbour by Mrs. Neighbour...
"Sit down, have a drink, and I'll explain" says Mrs N.
"I noticed water coming out from under the dishwasher and onto the new hw floor. I shut it off immediately, mopped it up, and called the service guy.
He came over, opened the dw door, looked inside and called us over to look. ! Rats, he said."
For those who haven't been paying attention, new dishwashers have plastic cabinets...great idea, in theory.
Mrs. N. continued to explain, " I told **** that there was a rat in the crawl space and to fix the problem. Didn't happen. The rat came up through the plumbing cutout and ate through the back of the dw."

Two lessons here:
1) do what SWMBO says...when she says it.
2) don't put hardwood anywhere there's water!!!

In cases such as above, I believe the first item is a Felony, earning an extended stay in the doghouse.
 
and get a DW w/ a SS tank...
 
Drinks are Verboten in my shop. Our humidity is high year-round, and cold glasses sweat. I don't want rust rings on my tablesaw, or joiner, and the horizontal surfaces are just too inviting. It's only a few steps across the grass to the kitchen, so if I want a drink or a snack, I just take a break and go where they live. I'm finding that as I get older, the breaks are good for my feet and legs anyway. And I'm fortunate thatjjj my wife is not someone I need to escape from.
 
I simply walk about 50' to the house and get whatever I want, when I go back in to the house I return the cup or mug. 0:)
 
No food or liquid held in the shop or brought down, however I sometimes bring a cuppah throat searing java with during the winter.
 
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Part of why I use paper cups is that they don't sweat. I also sometimes use an insulated, sealed cup. Feels really good sometimes to just go out there to sit and tinker with hand tools, or just sit and read awhile. My wife has really gotten into oil painting lately and her studio is in the sun room so the aroma drifts into the rest of the house. What you smell is what you taste, which is part of why I tend to tank up out in the sheds. I have two now, first is the shop, second is a 10x12 I finished as my office. Nice to be out of the house, kind of like a short commute to work. The office is really comfortable summer and winter while the shop takes some heating or cooling to be really comfortable. I have a wireless remote that turns on the office heater from the house. Have, but not yet installed the same for the shop. AC has to be turned on manually.

My consulting work is largely a matter of writing, so having the outside office gives me peace and quiet. The shop occupies my mind. I think I'm a little like Oliver, always thinking through something or other. Back when I was a newspaper writer and editor, I learned to let my mind process information until the story just wrote itself. Still like that today. Also more or less like to write to deadlines. Woodworking is the opposite of that, and you produce something real and solid. In consulting its more about empowering the success of others.

Thanks guys for letting me share my wonderful back yard. It is a work of art. My dad was a landscaper/gardener and I swore I'd never stick my hands in dirt again. Well, If he were still around, he'd love hanging out in our back yard. But he'd be about 117 years old, so he'd probably leave the rocks where they are.
 
I stumbled across this thread today. I find it curious that I was mulling over the same question. Should I include a kitchen in the workshop.

My old house had an attached two car garage so popping into the house to get a drink or a bite to eat was never really an inconvenience. It was often welcome, in our Texas heat.

But now that I am making plans for a much larger building, I have decided to include a small kitchen and bathroom with shower. It will be nice to spread out and actually have a refuge of my own.

As far as drinks, I used to have a dedicated spot for my drinks so that, one, I could find it again, and two, so that it did not gt placed somewhere it should not. I just used old, scratched up CDs for coasters and a cover to prevent "lagniappe" from entering my drinks.

Thanks for your post and question. It has helped me finalize my decision.
 
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I stumbled across this thread today. I find it curious that I was mulling over the same question. Should I include a kitchen in the workshop.

But now that I am making plans for a much larger building, I have decided to include a small kitchen and bathroom with shower. It will be nice to spread out and actually have a refuge of my own.
I really would like to have a bathroom in a shop, but its just not workable here. As I get older, that run to the house gets longer and longer.
 
I really would like to have a bathroom in a shop, but its just not workable here. As I get older, that run to the house gets longer and longer.
I just get tired of being screamed at for dragging sawdust into the house. Even thinking of putting the washer and dryer out near the shop so my shop clothes can stay in the shop.
 
I just get tired of being screamed at for dragging sawdust into the house.
Repeat after me: "Awww Honey, that ain't nothin' but good clean sawdust!"
Keep saying it until she believes it too.
 
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okay...
slop sink, hopper and coffee bar..
 
I stumbled across this thread today. I find it curious that I was mulling over the same question. Should I include a kitchen in the workshop.

My old house had an attached two car garage so popping into the house to get a drink or a bite to eat was never really an inconvenience. It was often welcome, in our Texas heat.

But now that I am making plans for a much larger building, I have decided to include a small kitchen and bathroom with shower. It will be nice to spread out and actually have a refuge of my own.

As far as drinks, I used to have a dedicated spot for my drinks so that, one, I could find it again, and two, so that it did not gt placed somewhere it should not. I just used old, scratched up CDs for coasters and a cover to prevent "lagniappe" from entering my drinks.

Thanks for your post and question. It has helped me finalize my decision.
Here it is difficult to put a bathroom in the shop, permit wise. Something to do with building another residence on your property or some such nonsense.
I had a friend who collected Corvettes and wanted to build an 8 car garage and put a toilet and sink in it. His permit was held up for nearly a year, until he deleted the toilet. Quite frustrating, I would say.

Herb
 
Here it is difficult to put a bathroom in the shop, permit wise. Something to do with building another residence on your property or some such nonsense.
I had a friend who collected Corvettes and wanted to build an 8 car garage and put a toilet and sink in it. His permit was held up for nearly a year, until he deleted the toilet. Quite frustrating, I would say.

Herb
Whats a building permit? :wink::wink::wink::wink::wink:

Seriously, I hope I do not run into these issues. I should be okay since the building will be my residence, if I have my way.
 
Whats a building permit? :wink::wink::wink::wink::wink:

Seriously, I hope I do not run into these issues. I should be okay since the building will be my residence, if I have my way.
That's right, I forgot about that, hope you succeed, I have often thought that an outside bath room would be nice. Not the old one/two holers either,had enough of that when I was young.:no::no:

Herb
 
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