Router Workshop Plans..Questions

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kenadian

Discussion Starter · Nov 22, 2005

I purchased some of the plan books; and had a couple of questions.
I'm assuming that all the material lists are actual (finished/dressed) dimensions; I'm looking at plan #308/309 and in 308 it calls for 2"x2" material for the legs....I found 2"x2" at HD, but the nominal size is 1-1/2"x1-1/2". Am I correct in making these statements?

I'm also looking for the software mentioned in plan #109 [the pro door software] for sizing materials for panel doors;plan #301 says to look at routerworkshop.com for the panel raised door generator, all I've found is one for boxes shelves and tables.

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Glenmore

· #2 · Nov 23, 2005

Hi Kenadian unless you go to a sawmill for rough cut lumber. Pretty much what you get in 2x stock is always a 1/2" off like say a 2x4 is actually a 1 1/2" x 3 1/2". Don't know why they do that but that is the way it is. Sorry I can't help you out with the questions for you.

kenadian

Discussion Starter · #3 · Nov 23, 2005

I realize a 2x4 is actually 1-1/2x3-1/2, [the rough size is 2x4], then it gets milled/finished and [the 2x4] is actually 1-1/2x3-1/2. I was wondering in the plans if the measurments listed (ie 2"x2" stock) is actual finished dimensions, or is it the "finished" size of 1-1/2"x1-1/2"

Woodnut65

· #4 · Nov 23, 2005

Hi, Kenadian: The "Panel Door Software" is sold by Oak-Park as item SPO140.
It is a CD, and gives you the ability to size all parts for raised panel doors, stiles rails and panels. I have an old price list and it did sell for about $35 USD. hope this helps... Woodnut65

cooptracy

· #5 · Nov 25, 2005

I also have the same question about plan sizes. It is a straight forward question but it appears that no one has read it correctly as the question has never been answered.

kenadian

Discussion Starter · #6 · Nov 25, 2005

I guess I'll just pick up some cheap pine and experiment with the project......................

I also looked for the The "Panel Door Software" is sold by Oak-Park as item SPO140 CD and came up empty.

reible

· #7 · Nov 25, 2005

kenadian said:
I guess I'll just pick up some cheap pine and experiment with the project......................

I also looked for the The "Panel Door Software" is sold by Oak-Park as item SPO140 CD and came up empty.

Since I don't have the plans you are looking at I can not tell you about the sizes but I can point you to the software you were looking for:
http://ca.oak-park.com/catalogue.html?list=RTS-RPS-
Please note this is only for the kenadian peoples
for the us's it is:
http://us.oak-park.com/catalogue.html?list=RTS-RPS-

Ed

kenadian

Discussion Starter · #8 · Nov 26, 2005

Thanks, I bought the raised panel sysyem a while back, but didn't notice the software was listed there. Anyone have any comments about it? Is it worth it,
Thanks

BobandRick

· #9 · Nov 26, 2005

We use softwood in the rough so I assume 2" means 2" but I will check with the plan and see if we can use 1-1/2" material.

As for the calculator it looks like it is missing from the site. I will have to check on that one as well.

reible

· #10 · Nov 26, 2005

BobandRick said:
We use softwood in the rough so I assume 2" means 2" but I will check with the plan and see if we can use 1-1/2" material.

As for the calculator it looks like it is missing from the site. I will have to check on that one as well.

The calculator has been found..... see post above(#7) with links.

Ed

kenadian

Discussion Starter · #11 · Aug 9, 2006

BobandRick said:
We use softwood in the rough so I assume 2" means 2" but I will check with the plan and see if we can use 1-1/2" material.

I'm still wondering if all the Oak Park plans are the same (for the lumber size).
Are all the dimensions (width/thickness) the actual finish dimension?

kenadian

Discussion Starter · #12 · Aug 10, 2006

Anyone Bob Rick?

Since I'm a "newer" woodworker, I want to start off making a couple of the easier projects, and I want to follow the actual patterns/plans/directions. Once I get a handle on these projects, I can then look to modify/substitute them.

That's why I want to know [in the plans] if the measurements in the Oak Park plans are actual dimensions for the thickness........

bobj3

· #13 · Aug 10, 2006

Hi Kenadian

I don't know for sure if the RWS plans come in full size but see the links below.
I just got a clock plan and it's full size, neat set of plans and I'm going to make it this weekend with some 1/2" scrap walnut I have around.
see link/picture below.

I just made a MDF type clock and it's a easy one to make if you want a snapshot of it I will post it but I don't have plans for it, just something I put together from scrap MDF in the shop, it's 6" deep,12" wide and 30" tall but it's all MDF and it's painted white,it's a great router project because it's quick and easy one to make.

Here's a neat one,it's full size plans. (clock)
http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/products.asp?id=161

The below is for Norms plans most of them come in full size.
http://www.newyankee.com/byname2.shtml

Bj

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kenadian

Discussion Starter · #14 · Aug 10, 2006

Thanks, but I think you missed my point/question.
I wanted to know if [all] Oak Park plans show the "actual" thicknesses; since a 1"x4" (example) in HD, Lowe's etc.... isn't 1x4 it's 3/4x3 1/2.

Plan 308 (nesting tables) call for 2"x2" oak for the legs, while the rails are 3/4"x2"........

Since the big box stores don't have 2"x2" stock (actual dimensions) I'm assuming I would have to glue up pieces and then rip/plane them to size

bobj3

· #15 · Aug 10, 2006

Hi Kenadian
I did just a bit BUT if you look at the plan and it calls for 1" x 4" and if you use 3/4"x3 1/2" this would make the plans right and your stock wrong and all the measurements wrong also so to speak.
.

The parts would be off right ?, so if the plan calles for 2 x 2 that's what it needs to be or you will need to buy 8/4 or 4/4 stock from a real wood supply outlet other than a HD or Lowes
You can always take off the 1/8" or 1/4" from the plans and it should come out right if you use HD or Lowes stock..

Good Luck
Bj

Hamlin

· #16 · Aug 10, 2006

All demensions within any type of plan are the final measurements. If you need a 2X2 then you will have to get larger material. As someone has stated, a 2x4 isn't a true 2x4 unless you go directly to a saw mill and get the "rough-cut" stuff.
Hope this helps.

kenadian

Discussion Starter · #17 · Aug 10, 2006

BobandRick said:
We use softwood in the rough so I assume 2" means 2" but I will check with the plan and see if we can use 1-1/2" material.

Thanks, that all I was trying to clarify. I'm still hoping to hear back from BobandRick to see if I can use the 1-1/2" material......

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