[bbandu]

It seems like there is a ton of different paste wax's and other things that can be used to rust prevention, and it loos like that what works for some doesn't mean that it will work for others. Y'all have giving me a bunch of options to choose from and a great place for me to start my rust prevention adventure.

Thanks

 

[DaninVan]

I was talking to Stick last night, on the phone. This topic came up in reference to construction. Out of curiosity I checked the current humidity on the weather 'site...it was 97%...
It's 84% at the moment Last night there was a 1/2 deg difference between the actual temperature and the dew point. No ^&^%$%$#^&(! wonder everything is either rusty or covered with algae.

 

[Straightlines]

Boeshield does protect well, but it is pretty sticky. Bostik’s GlideCote is much better for tools’ work surfaces.

 

[Larry42]

I use Trewax. It's not as oily as Johnson's and seems to be harder and last longer. Available at my local Ace hardware.

 

[Stick486]

I use Trewax. It's not as oily as Johnson's and seems to be harder and last longer. Available at my local Ace hardware.

it has Carnauba in it...
this is a good thing...

 

[bbandu]

I am glad that alot of people are chiming in and sharing there valuable knowledge on things that have worked or not worked for them in the rust prevention battle.

Just a little backstory on my journey in the rust prevention or lack there of.

I started this topic because as a kid growing up in Florida working for my dads construction company we never had to deal with rust on out job site tools but it almost seemed like my dad was fighting a never ending battle in his open air pole barn style workshop. When I started getting into wood working living in Texas I could not afford really good shop style tools and most were the small portable type that would be more home on a jobsite rather then a shop. I never really had to worry about rust on these tools because most of them came with stamped tables and not cast iron. After the military moved me to California I started expanding my tools from jobsite tools to more of a stationary shop tool. I started noticing a slight coloration change to by saw top caused by surface rust but it was kept mostly at bay because of the frequent use. We just recently moved back to Florida in the last year and my table saw was in storage both in California and Florida. When I finally got it out of storage where was a considerable amount of surface rust on the top. I know that the weather has alot to do with the amount of rust that we all have to deal with and my experience should not be near what my fathers was because I do not store my tools in an open air pole barn style workshop.

I now have a several tools that have cast iron table tops and I am just starting to figure out what will work best for me. I am currently using Johnson's paste wax on the top of my tools surfaces.

 

[Straightlines]

As previously mentioned, Johnson’s paste wax does contain silicones, which are known to transfer to and interfere with wood finishing efforts.

A better product is Howard’s Furniture Polish(wax), but the Glide Cote is easy and wonderfully effective.

 

[Stick486]

As previously mentioned, Johnson’s paste wax does contain silicones, which are known to transfer to and interfere with wood finishing efforts.

A better product is Howard’s Furniture Polish(wax), but the Glide Cote is easy and wonderfully effective.

according to J&J there paste wax doesn't contain silicone...

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[Stick486]

As previously mentioned, Johnson’s paste wax does contain silicones, which are known to transfer to and interfere with wood finishing efforts.

A better product is Howard’s Furniture Polish(wax), but the Glide Cote is easy and wonderfully effective.

according to J&J their paste wax doesn't contain silicone...
and it's the aggressively buffed out Carnauba wax that does the work...
the more the buffing the harder the film the better it works...
https://www.whatsinsidescjohnson.com/us/en/brands/sc-johnson/sc-johnson-paste-wax

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[Straightlines]

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according to J&J their paste wax doesn't contain silicone...
and it's the aggressively buffed out Carnauba wax that does the work...
the more the buffing the harder the film the better it works...
https://www.whatsinsidescjohnson.com/us/en/brands/sc-johnson/sc-johnson-paste-wax

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Hey Stick, thanks for the clarification! That’s good news.

 

[anndel]

Rust prevention on what? When not woodworking, I'm working on vehicles and use Fluid Film to prevent rust. On tools or machinery, WD-40.

 

[Stick486]

Rust prevention on what? When not woodworking, I'm working on vehicles and use Fluid Film to prevent rust. On tools or machinery, WD-40.

so tell us...
how does a Hygroscopic (WD) prevent rust....

 

[JFPNCM]

I use the Glide Cote and keep 2 containers of Damp Rid in the shop. Not sure the latter works all that well but they do fill up with water.

 

[Stick486]

make yur own Desiccant...

50/50 mix of rice/salt or baking soda/salt by weight...

 

[CAD-Man]

Last year when I needed to use my table saw in the spring. It had a small area of surface rust in it, I could not figure out where it cane from. I finally figured it out, there was slight crack along the edge of the roll up garage door. Snow had blown in the crack and landed on the table saw. Yes the table saw was covered but with the wind we have in Wyoming, if you have the slightest crack, snow will get in there. I do use Johnson Paste Wax but I must have not it completely covered the table.

CAD-Man

 

[Straightlines]

Rust prevention on what? When not woodworking, I'm working on vehicles and use Fluid Film to prevent rust. On tools or machinery, WD-40.

so tell us...
how does a Hygroscopic (WD) prevent rust....

Ha! Stick, where did you come up with this?

For years, I've read accounts of WD as a rust preventative, yet have personally observed the top of every WD-40 can rust, I've applied it to iron and seen that the object not only rusted but seemed to do so faster than I expected. I will say say that that rust has been light surface rust that seems to self-arrest.

 

[Stick486]

Ha! Stick, where did you come up with this?

For years, I've read accounts of WD as a rust preventative, yet have personally observed the top of every WD-40 can rust, I've applied it to iron and seen that the object not only rusted but seemed to do so faster than I expected. I will say say that that rust has been light surface rust that seems to self-arrest.

same as you... VOE..
WD becomes Hygroscopic right after it dries... in it's liquid state it displaces water...
another thing I've found, WD is a dirt magnet...

think about it, the WD cans are painted too...
and I've made a lot of money as in bunches of, cleaning up after WD users...

self healing metals are either coated w/ or contain Aluminum oxide and/or chromium oxide

spray/soak the inside of a motor's distributor cap...
w/o letting the WD dry or wiping away any access put the cap back on and start the motor...
later you'll wonder why the cap cracked or came off of the distributor...
spring hooked caps'll jump and flash..

 

[gdonham1]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Paste wax works but only if applied regularly but it is not very water resistant on cast iron. The Boeshield turned my cast Iron a darker color. The WD 40 method may work for some but WD 40 is wet when sprayed but evaporates and leaves behind a stickly mess. WD 40 will gum up bearings and cause them to fail. WD 40 used for its intented purpose is to displace water and penetration for rusty bolts. If you like WD 40 then use it but I would not use it on a bet as a rust preventer.

The TopSaver removes rust you may get from your fingerprints but really prevents rust from forming in my shop. I can buy or use anything but I choose TopSaver because it works. It does not transfer to wood so there are no finishing issues. I use it on every tool in my shop to remove and/or prevent rust.

https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Manuf...r_1_2?keywords=topsaver&qid=1571119381&sr=8-2

 

[dexcraft]

Apply paste wax with a clean cloth and rubbing in a circular motion. If you use water to make sure that the surface is dry before you polish.