Router Forums banner
1 - 18 of 18 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,603 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I have been on the internet for about 7 or 8 years and mostly use it for websites like this and to learn how to do things. I am 75 years old and a lot of people my age are scared to death of a computer but I sure would hate to do without it.

With all that said I would like to learn Sketch Up or something like it. Hoe would I go about learning how to use it? I have looked at a few videos on UT but it only takes about 30 seconds to loose me. Also I don't have any friends that likes wood working. I just need to learn about it for woodworking.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
37 Posts
I have used the Joe Zeh stuff and found it pretty easy...

Can't post the URLs since I'm new...but a quick Google will find it..
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,456 Posts
@hawkeye10 - Don: here's a link to Sketchup's website and their "getting started" series of videos.

When I was learning Sketchup some years ago, I followed along with some videos while I was performing the actions. There are still some procedures I need to look up, so when that happens, I go to Google and simply type in exactly what I want to do, like "how do I make a box in Sketchup". There will usually be some video showing the process.

https://www.sketchup.com/learn/videos/826
 

·
Registered
Theo
Joined
·
7,195 Posts
I have been on the internet for about 7 or 8 years and mostly use it for websites like this and to learn how to do things. I am 75 years old and a lot of people my age are scared to death of a computer but I sure would hate to do without it.

With all that said I would like to learn Sketch Up or something like it. Hoe would I go about learning how to use it? I have looked at a few videos on UT but it only takes about 30 seconds to loose me. Also I don't have any friends that likes wood working. I just need to learn about it for woodworking.
Ha, gotcha beat. I've been on the internet for longer than that, and am older to boot. :grin:

I've been doing sketchup since I was a kid, and still do it just the same way today.
 

Attachments

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
5,820 Posts
Ha, gotcha beat. I've been on the internet for longer than that, and am older to boot. :grin:

I've been doing sketchup since I was a kid, and still do it just the same way today.
But can you view the same drawing from the front, side, back, top, or ISO view? The old school stuff must be working good for you. Don't change just because everyone else is. :grin:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
22,210 Posts
The ability to mentally rotate images in space is one of the components of IQ, an additional 5 points if you can do it. Not everyone can. I've though about this too. BTW, I started on the original internet in 1985 or so on The Well. Much easier in 93 with the first browser. But it was pretty bare bones in those days, at least until Googlle and Yahoo's search engines started indexingt the Web. My very first computer explerience was on an Alpha Micro system with 2 5 megabyte Winchester drives. Then a Wang system, then PD DOS systems, and finally Windows 2.0. Long journey, but for an old buy, kind of liberating.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
5,820 Posts
My first computer experience was with the IBM 360 at our local college in 1968. UGH! I didn't like those punch cards.

I don't remember the year, but the first desktop PC was an XT model a vendor set up in our lab at work so we could enter sample results. No hard drive, just two floppy drive slots. If you wanted to print, you had to remove the bottom floppy and insert the floppy with the printer driver. :) Yep, we have come a loong way.
 

·
Registered
Theo
Joined
·
7,195 Posts
But can you view the same drawing from the front, side, back, top, or ISO view? The old school stuff must be working good for you. Don't change just because everyone else is. :grin:
Believe it or not, but yes. I can think of whatever in 3D, and rotate it as needed; usually take a bit of concentration, but works pretty often. I figure most people say they can't do it because they just don't try. Haven't seen a need to change yet, and don't figure on it. And with a good eraser, changes are no problem.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,603 Posts
Discussion Starter · #10 ·
I have been looking and reading so I was going to download Sketch Up but it was going to cost $695 to download it. I thought they had a program that was free. I like free.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,456 Posts
I have been looking and reading so I was going to download Sketch Up but it was going to cost $695 to download it. I thought they had a program that was free. I like free.
Don, you're probably trying to download the "pro" version. Here's a link to the download for the free version - it's called Sketchupmake - tell them it's for personal use, enter your email address and agree to the license agreement. You have to do those so you can download.
Vince

https://www.sketchup.com/download
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
5,820 Posts
For the first 30 days, you get to try out the Pro version, then the program will revert to the free version known as Sketchup Make.

For the average Joe, there is no need for the Pro version. Plenty of power in the free version.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,603 Posts
Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Thanks guys for the very good help. I really appreciate it.

Theo your a very lucky guy to be able to visually see things like that. I wish I could.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,909 Posts
If something is so complicated that I need to spend time drawing it out then I'm most likely over my head. I build from pictures in magazines or antiques that I have seen. If I want to build a table all I have to be concerned with is how I'm going to actually build it. The dimensions are dictated by what I'm using it for. If I'm building cabinets I know the size based on the length of the room. The size of the doors are determined by the size of the box and the type of hinges. The rails and stiles are determined by the opening and the size of the center of the door is determined by the size of the rails and stiles. I can make enough mistakes on my own by measuring so I don't have to complicate my wrong measurements buy spending hours at the computer or drawing boards. I'm actually better of by not measuring and just laying a piece of wood next to another one and cutting it off.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
477 Posts
When you go on you tube, if you have two computers to work with it really helps. One as a tutor and the other do what is being taught. This way you can stop the vid at any time and go over with out losing your place and you do not have to continually be switching back and forth. When switching back and forth, pretty soon I am working in the wrong area. I also am very old as you, but lost with out my puter and Pad.


Good luck hope this may work
 

·
Registered
Theo
Joined
·
7,195 Posts
XTheo your a very lucky guy to be able to visually see things like that. I wish I could.
It's like I said, I think a lot of people think they can't do it, so they don't try. If they tried, I think some of them at least could do it. I started as a kid, when I didn't know that was something that couldn't be done. If you try it and can't do it, nothing lost. But if you try it and can do it, that is something gained.
 

·
Registered
Rick
Joined
·
17,592 Posts
Thanks guys for the very good help. I really appreciate it.

Theo your a very lucky guy to be able to visually see things like that. I wish I could.
I am building a lat pull down machine for my gym , and have found sketchup to be invaluable.
I had the idea in my head , but I really needed a 3D visualization to know where parts were going to land , and having the ability to tweak it and see what issues may arise.

I’m just learning it again , and still very rusty , but I get by . I keep on googling steps that give me trouble , and it brings up videos .
I’m one of these guys that needs those Books for Dummies off the start , as I’m a little slow .

Here’s a pic of my idea . I have clearance issues in my basement , so no machines fits, so I’m making my own .
The pulleys are on separate angle iron pieces that I have cut and welded up and bolt up between the ceiling joists .
I’m still having issues trying to rotate parts perfectly with the rotate tool . Like turning a circle from verticle to horizontal , but I get it eventually.
By rights , I can cut my parts from my rendering, as I did everything to scale
 

Attachments

·
Registered
Theo
Joined
·
7,195 Posts
If something is so complicated that I need to spend time drawing it out then I'm most likely over my head. I build from pictures in magazines or antiques that I have seen. If I want to build a table all I have to be concerned with is how I'm going to actually build it. The dimensions are dictated by what I'm using it for. If I'm building cabinets I know the size based on the length of the room. The size of the doors are determined by the size of the box and the type of hinges. The rails and stiles are determined by the opening and the size of the center of the door is determined by the size of the rails and stiles. I can make enough mistakes on my own by measuring so I don't have to complicate my wrong measurements buy spending hours at the computer or drawing boards. I'm actually better of by not measuring and just laying a piece of wood next to another one and cutting it off.
I work like that when I make anything for the shop. Made a lathe stand from plywood, very stable, very strong, no vibration at all. Made a saw stand that way, very stable - and when I finished I had no idea of how I did it. Made a chair that way too. From looking on line I probably could have asked $2-300 for it. But I didn't like it when it was done, so cut the back off, and made a small, short, work bench out of it. Now I like it. Think I have a photo of it.

For anything else I google, a lot, and collect a lot of images for what ever catches my eye, then go thru them and discard a bunch, then repeat until I have just a few. Then sketch out my own version, which usually doesn't resemble any of them, just one or two things from each. Lay them out on graph paper, to actual size, cut them out, and that is the start of one of my masters, so I can make multiple copies. Right now I'm mainly concentrating on a coat tree. -Just when thru the images, and dumped most of them, that's for the hooks. I had a design for them worked out, but misplaced the notebook it is in apparently, so starting that over. Didn't see any base designs I like at all, so made up something I liked. Still needs some fine tuning, and to decide which I like best. The two I came up with are below. I don't deal with straight lines all the time, so what I do can't be done without sketching what I want out. It's not time wasted, it's essential, and really doesn't take that much time. And I can make copies, as many as I want, and they are all the same.

Durn, almost forgot. I want an owl on top of the coat tree. First, I thought I would make my own. Then found a set of 3, 10" tall, I can get for about $22, which is not bad compared to most prices. Right now still undecided if I will buy or make. If I make it will involve sketching one out. But that's part of the fun of woodworking, besides making something to set your coffee cup on, creating something different than anything anyone else has done. And each individual part will mean a separate master for each part. Creating, fun, fun, fun. The only problem with the owl on top is, when I first decided to make a coat tree, I was going to hang my had on it. Now I'll need to decide if I want to cover the owl with my hat, or make a hook specifically for my hat. Decisions, decisions, decisions.
 

Attachments

  • Like
Reactions: mgmine
1 - 18 of 18 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top