1st and most important, look to the company...So if you were to buy an all around router
(1) what would you look for
(3) What is your Favourite router
(5) Thank you.
Bosch CS/TS here is stellar... the Mag base issue.. fixed...All round? deWalt DW622 (1400 watt 1/2in chuck version of the USA DW621). Almost as small and compact as a DW615 (or Elu MOF96); light and compact; really good dust extraction up one of the columns (where it doesn't get in the way of seeing what you are doing) - well up there with the Festool OF1400; side fence incorporates a reasonable dust extraction connector and has a fine adjuster; and 1/2in collet so it can be used with larger cutters and just enough power to handle most stuff I do on an install - including cutting mason's mitre joints in 40mm thick post-formed laminated kitchen worktops (countertop), although that does require an extra pass or two over the big router I normally take along for the task. Bear in mind, though, that I need to be highly mobile, so hand held routing with a percentage of plunging cuts (recessing ironmongery, etc) as opposed to table routing is the order of the day for me.
Downsides? Really needs a Festool-style chip deflector hood to be attached to the underside of the base when edge routing using bearing guided cutters for best dust extraction; the sub base could do with being a tad bigger to make the router less tippy; you do need to buy the fine depth adjuster to give you micrometer depth control; and the guide bushes are peculiar so you need to buy a third party adaptor either to take Trend/Elu MOF96 GBs or alternatively P-C GBs.
My DW622 actually replaced a Festool OF1400 which I could never really get to grips with - at least not comfortably - I bought the DW622 having already read a review by Routerman (the late and much missed Pat Warner) on his web site. I currently have several other routers to compare the DW to including the big brute Festool OF2200, a Bosch 1618 and a deWalt DW625 - as well as having access to various Makitas, Hitachis, etc through work. The DW is still my all round favourite, though, despite it's shortcomings
In terms of CS deWalt in the UK at least seem to be some way ahead of Bosch - their spares availability certainly is with many old Elu models from the 1980s still being supported. Bosch here is getting bad press at times due to failures in their spares stocking policy. Makita can be a bit hit and miss on spares although their technical support is good. Overall I'd say DW do better, but that is a local market viewpoint. Because I earn my living from my tools I tend to try to pick the most appropriate tool for the job first and foremost, then see what their support policy and spares availability are like
A genuine question about Bosch in the USA. Did they admit to problems with the Magnesium body/base 1617/1618 routers and issue a recall? Asking partly because I have a Mag. body 1617 - and zero support in the UK
The tippiness isn't an issue for me, but is something that others have mentioned, including the late Pat Warner on his now defunct website. TBH I don't need to experience a 1619 (GOF2000e in the EU) for power because I already have a Festool OF2200 which is actually more powerful and has superior dust extraction (why the solid surface bridgade use them) and several MOF177e/DW625 variants (the later ones are 2000 watts). In the past I've owned the GOF1700ACE (1611?) as well. The only thing the GOF2000 has over the DWs is that it's quieter. But then the Festool is probably quieter still.Tippy isn't a real issue that I've witnessed..
want power??/ experience a Bosch 1619......
Must be something to do with the manufacturing. Our DW routers over here are made in Italy and Slovenia (older ones were Swiss) - we don't see Chinese or Mexican ones yet. My oldest Elu in use is a mid-1970s MOF98. The oldest DW625 I know anyone still has in regular use is an early 1990s model, which is about the time they partly rebranded from Elu, but I do know of a number of older MOF177es in regular trade useDeWalt DOES NOT have the endurance Bosch has.. all of the DW I had has died and been buried.. my Bosch are still serving, even the almost 4 decade old ones... (I'm a commercial operation)..
2200 watts is not underpowered and top and bottom ball bearings for all the routers, so we are obviously talking at cross purposes hereFestool here just costs a lot of money for under powered plastic and oil bath bushing.. for their kind of money you'd think there would be at least bearings...
I think you've hit the nail on the head there, Dan, but the OP did ask the question, "So if you were to buy an all around router what would you look for?"Tooka look; hi! What do you want to do with it?
It's not as simple as your questionaire would lead you to believe.