[TwoSkies57]

John... I gotta let ya know, I was on a dedicated circuit at 119 volts when she was acting up. Ahh well, good luck with your rig, Let me know how she turns out and if I can be of any help...

Bill

 

[dwall174]

here is the original piece that I got the idea from. It is very well written and illustrated.

Milwaukee 5625 Router conversion

Looks like they may have removed that post on woodnet.
If you can find the part number for the new EFM & the model of router it comes from I should be able to figure it out.

 

[TwoSkies57]

Hey Doug...

I tried to go back and see if i could find you the info you requested. Your right, woodnet has a 365 time out. So its now gone, I'm trying to contact the OP for the info. and a link to the tutorial he provided. It was excellent!!

I'll go thru my receipts later and see what I can find as well. as for the router model. I modified a Milwaukee 5625. At the time the router I was looking for was a Jessem 0526. Which basically was the Mil. with Jessem's controls. I do see now that a couple guys out of Canada have been selling the orginal 05626 (with remote controls). I'm guessing they came across some new old stock....but expensive at 480.00

in the thread, I mention "Charles Day Co." as the provided of parts. I coulda swore they were out of Chicago, but a quick google comes up with Portland Oregon???

HTH..

Bill

 

[dwall174]

I do see now that a couple guys out of Canada have been selling the orginal 05626 (with remote controls). I'm guessing they came across some new old stock....but expensive at 480.00

Yea I found a Canadian supplier through Amazon’s Market Place that still had one of the JessEm/Milwaukee 5626 units on hand and they wanted $525 for it! I also doubled checked with Milwaukee & I was told that eve though the tool was brand-new in a sealed box, In-less it was from a authorized reseller there would be no warranty!

as for the router model. I modified a Milwaukee 5625.

Yea that's what I want to do also using a 5625. I copied the diagram you posted before on the 5626-69 which I believe is the model of router that the new EFM comes from, But I'm not sure of the part#.

 

[TwoSkies57]

Doug...

well now, it seems that perhaps Milwaukee and Jessem resolved what ever differences they might of had. I found the customer service at Jessem to be outstanding and the couple of places I called about Milwaukee actually were not aware the router even existed.

I just went back into the charles day co. website out of portland. Looked at the contact us page. this "is" the outfit that supplied me my parts. In fact, I spoke with Jim
Allemand. I remember the guys picture. Nice folks! more than happy to help. At the time, they were having a run on these parts due to the how to sheet that was posted.

give em a call at 888-697-8872 <<toll free>> let me know how ya made out

bill

 

[dwall174]

Doug...give em a call at 888-697-8872 <<toll free>> let me know how ya made out; bill

Thanks I will check with them & see what else I can figure out!

So far I was able to locate the EFM unit & I can get it through a local Milwaukee Dealer, Part# 14-20-0095.

I also came up with the wiring diagram for the control unit but I haven't been able to locate the replacement switch or Potentiometer Assembly. If “Need Be” I could figure it out & just use parts from a local electronics store, But it will be easier with the correct replacement parts.

 

[TwoSkies57]

Doug...

where in the world did you find those files? Man,, I looked high and low when I was doing mine and came up empty...*L*...did Milwaukee repost them?

anyways...Its kinda hard to tell, but if I had to say, I'd say the ECM, potentiometer and power switch are pretty much what I got. Once you get ready to get going, let me know, If it will help, I'll take the router out, open her up (due for a good cleaning anyways) and take a few pics for ya. The only issue with wiring was being careful not to pinch one of the wires. otherwise, it was pretty straight forward.

 

[dwall174]

where in the world did you find those files? Man,, I looked high and low when I was doing mine and came up empty...*L*...did Milwaukee repost them?

Got it through Google by using the part# 14-20-0095 that was on the diagram you posted on page 6

anyways...Its kinda hard to tell, but if I had to say, I'd say the ECM, potentiometer and power switch are pretty much what I got. Once you get ready to get going, let me know, If it will help,

I talked to Jim at Charles Day Co, (Thanks for his name) He knew exactly what I was looking for! He couldn't remember everything that was used either. But we came up with the ECM, Potentiometer Assy,
Power Cable (from ECM to Potentiometer) He wasn't sure about the Milwaukee switch but said he's sure he could find one that would work.

I'll take the router out, open her up (due for a good cleaning anyways) and take a few pics for ya

No need to do that I'm sure I can figure it out! Plus I probably wouldn’t be doing this for a few months anyway. If your going to be cleaning it & opening her up anyway, I posted a couple of links in the “Reference Forum” that I found on replacing the bearings & brushes.

Thanks for all your help!

 

[TwoSkies57]

Good luck to ya Doug...let us know how you make out...

bill

 

[LinuxRandal]

TwoSkies57,

Thanks for this thread. I am getting a router that sounds like the electronic speed control might be going out (router was slowing down, then stopped). I was wanting to do the mod so it would be external anyway. Might be shooting some more questions when it arrives.

 

[TwoSkies57]

You're quite welcome Randall..


It be best to determine just exactly why the router your getting "stopped" on you... then look at the options from there.

bill

 

[LinuxRandal]

You're quite welcome Randall..


It be best to determine just exactly why the router your getting "stopped" on you... then look at the options from there.

bill

I have posted what I believe to be the problem (found others with same router and problems), and while I have a working model of that router, I would rather not take it apart (with my luck the good one would short). I am hoping that dwall174 will pop back in with what he bought/found out (can't pm yet) and then I order the parts if it eliminated the defective part. Then I transfer the one with the external speed controller into the lift, and place the other on the SSRK. (EZ smart stuff)

Thanks

 

[KenBee]

I have a Milwaukee 5616-20, 2-1/2 HP I bought specifically for my router table. It (the router) has above the table height setting and seems to be very precise. I am still working on my table and should have it finished by tomorrow except for the finish. It has a Woodpeckers table top and insert drilled specifically for the Milwaukee 5615 & 5616 routers and the Woodpeckers Pro Fence. Haven't used it yet so I can't give any info on how it performs.

 

[TwoSkies57]

Hey Ken...

Sounds like you've put together a great setup. Once you get her up and running and have a few boards under your belt, if you wouldn't mind, let us know what you think of the setup. Folks around here are always looking for first hand reports on products.

I can't say enough about Woodpeckers products/sales and service. Great bunch of folks to deal with...

good luck with your new rig..

bill

 

[jcr3]

HI. I too have a large router table with two routers, each on a Woodpecker lift. I use my PC router with smaller bits, and the Milwaukee with my larger bits. I bought both setups 3 years ago, and love them. I cant remember which model # the Milwaukee is but it was the biggest they sold at the time, and it does have variable speed. My only gripe is that the Milwaukee broke with less than 1 hour on it, but it was replaced immediately at no charge, and the 2nd has worked fine ever since. I assume by "remote" switch that youre not talking about a wireless remote since Ive never seen one, but then again I havnt looked for one or needed that since I have two separate switches mounted on the front of my router table that control each router just perfect! My .02

 

[TwoSkies57]

Hey John..

Nooooooooo.. *S*.. remote is merely having the variable speed control and they on/off switches located remotely, away from the router. I don't have to reach in under the table to turn my unit on/off or set my speed. I love it. but its certainly not required or necessary.. more a convenience I was willing to pay a little extra for..

 

[LinuxRandal]

All right, some days you win. The router was bought on Ebay, and the symptoms listed I had read before. I tracked down where I had read them, and they also had the reset procedure listed. Well, the reset procedure is effectively the same as removing the bit and turning off for three seconds or more (in this case, the time it took for me to receive it). Worked out of the box, tags tore up (effectively no warranty) and under $40; so I have no problem modifying it.
So Bill, I have some questions:

I read you had surging/starting problems, but they seemed to go away after some house rewiring. Have they stayed away?
What about cleaning/waxing the PRL2? What have you found that works best for you?
Did you ever take the wiring pictures? Could you post or send me them?
What about the switch you used, could you just have only used the switch here:

Or are both required like I think they are?

Going to be calling Charles Day next week (my next weekend).

Thanks!:thank_you2:

EDIT: Can't post the link to a picture in this thread, yet.

 

[TwoSkies57]

Hey Randall..

Yes, I did have problems with the Milwaukee "surging". essentially I believe the unit was going into shutdown and then would catch. Run a short while and then do it again, Repeating this cycle over and over. It was like it was being turned off and then back on. I can't really say I found what was the problem. After a while the time between surges increased and eventually stopped altogether. At first I put the old controls back into the unit and she would run fine. This lead/s me to believe that the problem was with the ECM. Its been well over a year and a half now and she's runs solid. No problems at all. Can I have a Amen brother!!

It was suggested that perhaps I was not getting proper voltage to the unit. However, I checked and was getting somewhere like 119v off of a dedicated circuit. So that pretty much eliminated that consideration.

AS far as cleaning goes I have yet to put anything on the lift columns. I basically use compressed air a couple times a month to give everything a good cleaning. I pull the entire unit, router and lift out and just blast away. I hit the micro adjuster and router as well while at it. So far so good. Someone posted a few days ago about problems they were having with their PRV2. I can honestly say the only complaint I have which is a very minor one is that there is a bit of slop when adjusting the micro adjuster when you first go to turn the wheel. I put in a digital height readout so I really never even attempt to read the adjuster. Gotta love technology *L*

You can absolutely use only one switch. I put in the other as a means to stop the router when working from the side of the table with just a bump from my knee. Nothing more than a personnel preference, certainly not required. The 'hanger' you see next to the switch is for hanging the Incra rig when I'm using the tabletop for
assemblies or pocket hole work. Keeps it out of the way.

I hadn't taken any pictures yet. The Mrs. is out of town for a couple of days and she has the camera with her. When she gets back, I'll make it a point to take a few pictures of the wiring for you Give me a good excuse to take the top off and give it a good blast of air..

So Bill, I have some questions:

I read you had surging/starting problems, but they seemed to go away after some house rewiring. Have they stayed away

What about cleaning/waxing the PRL2? What have you found that works best for you?


Did you ever take the wiring pictures? Could you post or send me them?
What about the switch you used, could you just have only used the switch here:

Or are both required like I think they are?

Going to be calling Charles Day next week (my next weekend).

Thanks!:thank_you2:

EDIT: Can't post the link to a picture in this thread, yet.

 

[LinuxRandal]

Well an update for anyone considering this in the future. I've talked to Mike, the first one who hacked his router, then Casey, the Woodnet poster, that was mentioned early on. The EFM for in the router speed adjustment is a different part number from the one for the external speed controller. This is the brains of the thing, and from what I am finding only, quite possibly a discontinued part. (people either don't show it, or it shows up as no longer a valid number)

EDIT: After some more back and forth, it looks like this may have been a fat fingered thing (typo's) when looking for the parts. He has got back to me with prices and availability.

 

[dwall174]

I am hoping that dwall174 will pop back in with what he bought/found out

Sorry I didn't get back to you! I must have missed your post!

I haven't done the conversion yet! Just getting the information needed. I've been looking around for a reconditioned or used 5625 that I can do the conversion on, I also found out that the complete controller # 23-35-0175 is now available through Milwaukee.
Here's part of an E-Mail I got back from Milwaukee Tools;
The 23-35-0175 Control Box and individual service replacement parts are now available for purchase through your local Milwaukee Dealer or by calling our 1- 800- Sawdust line ( 1-800-729-3878) for additional information. mailto:[email protected]

Hope this helps
Doug