Router Forums banner
1 - 6 of 6 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
28 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
So, I’ve posted about using a PC 690 router. But, I just got the small Makita router kit RTO700C. I just used it today for the first time with the plunge base. I used a CMT 1/8” , 1/4” spiral bit to clear a channel for a carbon fiber rod in a guitar neck.
when o tried to get the bit out, it would not budge. I’ve had this happen several times with other routers. I eventually got the bit to come out. But, this time the fit was just really good and it wouldn’t budge. So I to a pair of pliers to try to spin it slightly. Okay, so I’m pretty stupid. Yes, I broke the bit and finally when I got the spiral bit out, it naturally came out with the collet.
So, my very basic question is, is there a good way to get out stubborn bits? I was thinking yeah maybe I should just grab the lip of the collet. Then I thought no, better to just gently tap the lip of the collet.

I think I could use some advice,
Thank you all in advance.

Tim C

PS- the little Makita is sooo smooth! Soft start! I’ve never had a soft start router before. Nice! Plus the bit cut like butter through Spanish cedar. I must say I will have to be very careful doing this in the future. I’m dropping it in almost the entire length of the cutting edge. It was just short of 5/8” deep. If I tilt the bit at all, I think I’ll have another broken bit.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,321 Posts
Two things.
I learned years ago to put an O ring that just fits inside the shaft of the router behind the collet. This O ring will prevent the shaft of the router bit from bottoming out, as it can cause the bit not to release when it's time to remove it.

Most, if not all, routers made in the last 50 or so years have collets with nuts that work in two directions and they are actually a collet with a collet nut attached together with an internal spring clip. When you loosen the nut to remove the bit, turning the nut about an additional turn will cause the nut to need the wrench again. Using the wrench this second time pulls the collet out of the shaft and releases the router bit.

I suspect that one of these or the other is causing your problem. The third problem that I have become aware of is that somehow the nut and collet are no longer being held together by this clip and the nut has pushed the collet into the shaft and the nut is now off, but the collet and bit are still in the router. My only suggestion here, since the collet is tapered much like a Morse Taper, is to put penetrating oil on the collet to shaft joint and tap the bit and collet sideways many times, each time rotating the collet and bit 1/4 turn, until you finally get the collet to pop free. Either use a dead blow padded head hammer or a piece of 2 X 4 as the hammer, and be patient. It is not going to pop out easily. Just keep repeating the process until success. You will likely ruin the bit doing this too.

When you succeed, clean ALL of the penetrating oil out of the collet and router shaft. This is NOT a place where you want any lubrication. Also, figure out why the collet and nut aren't one loose assembly.
Do not use it again until they are snapped together properly or replaced.

Charley
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
28 Posts
Discussion Starter · #3 ·
Hey thanks Charley. I’m not exactly sure about turning the nut to release the collet. Boy, that would solve everything. I’ll look at it closely.
in the past, with my PC690, it was suggested to bottom the bit out then pull it slightly out. Now, from what you are telling me, it becomes clear why they said this. I just wish they would have explained it in the instructions.
Yeah, I ordered another bit. But, I can’t keep ordering one with each use. It’s a down cutting 1/8” bit and delicate. But, man it cut so well. Like I said I was so impressed by the smooth cutting.

thanks again Charley!!!!!
Tim
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
210 Posts
So, I’ve posted about using a PC 690 router. But, I just got the small Makita router kit RTO700C. I just used it today for the first time with the plunge base. I used a CMT 1/8” , 1/4” spiral bit to clear a channel for a carbon fiber rod in a guitar neck.
when o tried to get the bit out, it would not budge. I’ve had this happen several times with other routers. I eventually got the bit to come out. But, this time the fit was just really good and it wouldn’t budge. So I to a pair of pliers to try to spin it slightly. Okay, so I’m pretty stupid. Yes, I broke the bit and finally when I got the spiral bit out, it naturally came out with the collet.
So, my very basic question is, is there a good way to get out stubborn bits? I was thinking yeah maybe I should just grab the lip of the collet. Then I thought no, better to just gently tap the lip of the collet.

I think I could use some advice,
Thank you all in advance.

Tim C

PS- the little Makita is sooo smooth! Soft start! I’ve never had a soft start router before. Nice! Plus the bit cut like butter through Spanish cedar. I must say I will have to be very careful doing this in the future. I’m dropping it in almost the entire length of the cutting edge. It was just short of 5/8” deep. If I tilt the bit at all, I think I’ll have another broken bit.
The RT0700/0701 can be a bit finicky with certain bits, I’ve had that issue with it before. Usually it’s as easy as unscrewing and removing the nut altogether then pulling the entire collet out with the bit still in it.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
15 Posts
The RT0700/0701 can be a bit finicky with certain bits, I’ve had that issue with it before. Usually it’s as easy as unscrewing and removing the nut altogether then pulling the entire collet out with the bit still in it.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
I read the thread subject and assumed it was the small Makita router...opened the thread and wasn't surprised.

It's even worse with 8mm shaft cutters since the 8mm collet is a real low tech version with only one slot. Cutters slips easier than with real collets and overtightening leads to stuck cutters.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
210 Posts
I read the thread subject and assumed it was the small Makita router...opened the thread and wasn't surprised.

It's even worse with 8mm shaft cutters since the 8mm collet is a real low tech version with only one slot. Cutters slips easier than with real collets and overtightening leads to stuck cutters.
Still love the router, but the only bits that don’t give me crap are the premium brands (Amana, Whiteside etc). Anything Freud and down the line will occasionally get stuck. That’s why I only use the good stuff in the RT0701 and everything else in the Colt. Bosch doesn’t care, it’ll eat anything.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
1 - 6 of 6 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top