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Noticed my table saw blade mechanism was harder than normal to lower today, like I was cranking through resistance. Looked underneath it and saw a lot of sawdust buildup on the mechanisms. I’m thinking this is what I felt, the gears cranking through excess caked on dust. So I’m going to clean all this off and see if it helps. My question is what do I lubricate the gears with? Do I use anything at all? It seems this will just make dust stick to it even more.
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With every doz. cans you get a lb. of Canadian Back Bacon.
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I use bacon grease I get 100% pure refined from Harbor Freight.
Herb
nothing too good for you Herber..
Looks like I can get it on Walmart’s website for che
make sure you give the container a really good shake up before applying....
WD40 stands for Water Displacer 40th attempt. Displacing water in, for example, the electrical connector between truck and trailer on snowy slushy days. All the log truck drivers up here keep a can in the cab. That is what it’s really good for.

One way to clean the threads is to wrap a cord around the screw and spin it from one end to the other if you can get at it.
:stop: don't use that on rubber or plastic parts, it contains petroleum distillates, which will eventually disintegrate those!.. crazing, hardening, and cracking are a few signs..
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:stop: don't use that on rubber or plastic parts, it contains petroleum distillates, which will eventually disintegrate those!.. crazing, hardening, and cracking are a few signs..
and eats bearing seals for snacks...
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I use DuPont Teflon Non-Stick Dry-Film Lubricant Aerosol Spray, 10 Oz. No silicone; repels dust Really like it.
I’ve always thought of WD-40 as a solvent instead of a lubricant. I don’t even own any. Used to use it to clean rust from tops but found out that the wet PB Blaster is even better for that so I don’t have a use anymore for WD-40, although I once heard it was an awesome ingredient in catfish bait. Never tried it.

As for my table saw I’m going to get a dry lubricant. Definitely. Probably get some paste wax for my bandsaw table and table saw top too. My table saw top has a coating on it and I think it’s aluminum underneath that but I have noticed that wood doesn’t slide on it as smoothly as I think it should. It’s a Ridgid R4513 model. But wouldn’t the wax leave a residue on wood that would need sanded off to finish? Not all of my projects get sanded. If the wood doesn’t need it I don’t bother.
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The word tools came out as tops in my above post. I cleaned rust from tools with WD-40. Not anymore though.
But wouldn’t the wax leave a residue on wood that would need sanded off to finish?
buff it out...
put a bonnet on your ROS and buff away...
or go find a mega cheap car polisher..
the more you polish/buff the harder and slicker it gets...

Johnson's paste wax for your tables and tools...
You can add Briwax, Black Bison, Behlen, Trewax and Mohawk to the list of acceptable waxes...
If they contain Carnauba wax they will finish harder and be longer wearing/lasting...
You can even add more Carnauba if you want...

http://www.parkbeekeeping.com/products/detail/carnauba-wax

Wax applied to a warm surface is a big plus...
Mechanical polishing over hand buffing is way better.. (elcheapo car buffer or a wool bonnet on your ROS)...
Polishing is what makes the wax work to it's fullest...
More polishing.. Better results...

above all.. make sure it DOES NOT contain silicone...

Wax clean up/removal/thinning is done w/ mineral spirits...
A pound of wax should last way more than a decade maybe even well into the second...
Put it on any tool table surface you have...
Great for plane soles too...
To melt/soften the wax put the container of wax in hot water but not submerged...

Carnauba wax, sometimes also referred to as palm wax or Brazil wax, is a kind of wax that is made from the extracts of palm leaves. These leaves are found on the plant ‘Copernicia prunifera’, a short plant that is usually found in Brazil, especially in the states of Ceara, Rio Grande do Norte and Piaui. Also known as the ‘Queen of waxes’, it is found in yellowish or brownish flakes.

Stick w/ your silicone-less furniture paste wax and avoid possible contamination of your project...

If you are considering candle wax... not all candles are created equal...
You also have to contend w/ dyes in the wax...
Best to steer clear of using candle wax...

Candle making colorants come in a vegetable based block so there is no paraffin in these color blocks.

Candle Wax | Candlewic
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Well, I spent 5 hours cleaning my shop today and I’m still not done. Part of that was spent on my table saw. I spent a solid hour removing caked on sawdust from the blade raising gears and threaded shaft. I wish I’d taken a pic when I started. You couldn’t even see the shaft threads. I don’t know how the blade could even go up and down. Also there are two guide slots, one on each side of the motor, that a T shaped part slides in as the blade travels up and down. The parts and the tracks both were not only caked with sawdust but there is a sticky residue all over it. I believe this is part of the resistance I feel.

I brushed and vacuumed until almost all of that was gone. Tomorrow I’m going to use mean green cleaner on it and take it back to factory new clean condition. Then I’ll get some dry lube and coat everything well.

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Very ambitious Duane and good work. Did you have any parts left over? Usually when I take something apart, I end up with spare parts:nerd:0:)
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Duane...
you need to rinse w/ your Green cleaner...
cover/wrap up the motor and use brake cleaner on the moving/turning parts..
no residues or films left behind.. just raw metal..
be wary of the fumes and keep the cleaner out of the electrical anything and don't inject your bearings...
that ''gummy'' you found is characteristic of grease and WD...
I figured that was the residue from wood cutting. I have ran treated lumber through this saw at times.
brake cleaner will clean the cleanliness....
Yes I’m gonna have to do that. I was just now out in the shop spraying and wiping some more, and thought the metal was looking pretty clean until I swiped my fingers across the black painted part. It left a visible streak and black residue on my finger. Tomorrow I will thoroughly clean the saw. Will carb/choke cleaner work or is it too strong? It might take the paint off. The can says it cleans all UNPAINTED parts. I’m probably just gonna have to get a can of brake parts cleaner.
Yes I’m gonna have to do that. I was just now out in the shop spraying and wiping some more, and thought the metal was looking pretty clean until I swiped my fingers across the black painted part. It left a visible streak and black residue on my finger. Tomorrow I will thoroughly clean the saw. Will carb/choke cleaner work or is it too strong? It might take the paint off. The can says it cleans all UNPAINTED parts. I’m probably just gonna have to get a can of brake parts cleaner.
Duane...
DO NOT USE choke/carb cleaner..
trust me on this...
CRC makes the best brake cleaner...



make sure you use a rag to catch the drips to avoid making a mess...
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Gotcha on the brake parts cleaner. I figured the carb cleaner would damage any non metal parts anyway, which I just discovered hat there is a plastic bushing under one of the gears. Shown in the pic, the green arrow points to its location. Why do I wish this was a brass bushing? Maybe metal would provide too much resistance whereas plastic allows for smooth rotation of the threaded shaft. Do you see any problem with swapping this out to metal? Even a stack of washers? I just feel that plastic will wear out and I’ll be needing to replace it anyway. While it’s apart and the bushing is still good I can use it as a size reference.

Also, the blue arrow indicates the metal “tab” that was bent out of the rather thick sheet metal yoke that the motor assembly rides against. This was not square to the rest of the set up and had that plastic bushing riding on just one edge as the shaft rotated. I took the liberty to square this up so the bushing sits flat. I reassembled things and did a dry run and it actually seems that the motor moves up and down easier now.

Lastly, the red arrow points to the gear on the crank shaft of the motor lift. This gear is attached with a screw tray passes through the shaft and back into the gear on the other side. Sadly, the gear wobbles as the shaft is turned. This explains the shimmy from side to side I’ve watched my blade do as I raised and lowered it over the last theee years. Has never caused any serious problem to me or my projects, but depending on where you stop the blade height it is out of square to the table ever so slightly. 1/32” maybe. It’s been a looooong time since I’ve even checked it. I just recall during setup that no matter what I did the shimmy was still there and the blade passed in and out of square as I raised and lowered it. It’s alwas bugged me, and the way this is made there is no tweak for it. I loosened the screw and skewed the gear in the direction it needed to go in as I retightened it. This seemed to slightly lessen the wobble I could observe as I turned the wheel but I know once things are back together and the gear is under load to lift the motor it may not stay. I’m also aware I’m knit picking a $500 saw ($400 now, it has come down since I bought it, grrrrrrrrr) to specs of greater than 1/32 accuracy, but hey I shoot for the stars even if all I have is a slingshot. When I start refining things you can bet even my slingshots will end up being made from surgical steel with tactical rubber grips, a super elastic polymer band with a ratchet lock to hold it at half draw, and a suede leather cup to shoot high polished chrome steelies from. It’s liable to even have a laser sight mounted between the forks, and a pop off cap to store extra ammo in the handle. That’s how I roll. 😁
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what brand of saw is this???
a bronze bushing or a sleeve bearing is a great idea...
skip the staked washer idea.. things could very well go south on ya in a hurry..
2nd choice wold be UHMW...

a WAG says that the tab bent from a lot of extra torquing during the need to move things while your mechanism was loaded up w/ so much crud...

so what wallowed out on/with the red arrow gear??? something did...
oh for the want of some periodic maintenance...

when will you have my full optioned out slingshot ready...
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