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I have been a long time lurker of the forums but I find myself in need of help. I have learned two lessons the hard way so I am trying to avoid a third. The first thing was the cheap rail and stile bits are more of a pain than the savings. I tried some no brand and they were a no fit. I wasted a Saturday only to find out it was the bits themselves that were the issue. I shelled out the money for a set of Frued rail and stile set (99-763) and was able to finish my doors with no issues. Secondly I brought a cheap router table router combo (Blue Hawk) and I am having to make due with it. The thing vibrates so much the router plate leveling screws fall off and and now I have hot glued everything in place. The only good thing is it accepts 1/2" which I now see is great for bigger projects. My Dewalt DWP611PK is good for small jobs but I needed something a little more robust. I am now looking to add a decorative profile to my cabinet doors I have built for my walk-up bar. I created 3 base cabinets (24", 30", and 18") and three wall cabinets (30"x30", 30"x30", and 18" x 36"). I would like to add a nice profile to the cabinet doors and drawer fonts but can't seem to find the correct bit on the Freud website (not very novice friendly). I am using 3/4" popular for my stock. I would like something along the lines of MLCS 7854 which is a door edge profile combined with #7856 which is a round over and ogee door lip profile.


Sample look - mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/bt_door.html#


Any help is greatly appreciated. If one bit will not create it please let me know what the steps should be to achieve such a look. Like which bit to use first.

Thanks,

Novice Woodworker
 

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Henry, you joined in 2013 and just now starting to post. Whats up with that? Just think of all the fun you have missed. :smile: Welcome and I hope you continue to post.
 

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you looking for something like this???

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Stick486 - That's the catalog I spent about 1 hour looking through last night and did not see what I was looking for. I am still not experienced enough to envision the cut the bit will make without going to the individual bit and waiting for the gif to change to show the profile the bit will make. The closet thing was like what Semipro listed.

Henry look here
Freud Tools - Search Results for FRD 99-065
That one was close but I it has the smooth curve at the top. I want that had edge like on bit 7855 then the curve part.

Henry, you joined in 2013 and just now starting to post. Whats up with that? Just think of all the fun you have missed. :smile: Welcome and I hope you continue to post.
hawkeye10 - I joined after we brought our new house and had a list of projects I wanted to do...lol. Then the Honey Do list out paced my projects. I am finally getting around to do things I want to do...lol.



I guess I should have gave some more background on what I had researched. I think I need something called a thumbnail bit to make the hard edge then the curve but I can't seem to find that in their catalog. When I search their site for thumbnail it does not give me anything close to what I want. I could not find a double flute bit that would make a hard edge on the top and cut the backside of the wood.
 

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Maybe you can do a quick pencil drawing of the profile you want...? Then take a pic of it and post...
 

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I just realized I did not attach my project when I posted. Well this is what I have so far. The picture of the door edge is my feeble attempt of making a decorative edge with what I had on hand. I had a 1/8 round over laying around in my bits and it gave the edge a little character but I think I needs more. The room to the left is for my fish room.
 

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BTW...nice job on the cabinets...
 
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If you want pic 3 on an edge, a roundover bit will do it...example...

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BTW...nice job on the cabinets...
Nickp - So what about the back angle part...would I need a chamfer bit? Thanks about the cabinets I did not now they were so easy to make...especially once you have a few jigs made. Since I am using 3/4" stock which round will produce the step I want?
 

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I pretty much stick with Freud bits for general purpose, but I have yet to regret buying Sommerfeld bit sets, despite their higher prices. Sommerfeld also has an EasySet jig for setting up critical fit bits. It accounts for workpiece thickness and is available for both their brand and Freud bits as well. Love it. I have a few Rockler bits I like as well.
 

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I pretty much stick with Freud bits for general purpose, but I have yet to regret buying Sommerfeld bit sets, despite their higher prices. Sommerfeld also has an EasySet jig for setting up critical fit bits. It accounts for workpiece thickness and is available for both their brand and Freud bits as well. Love it. I have a few Rockler bits I like as well.
DesertRatTom - I think they may be my preferred bit as well. After seeing how smooth my cuts were compared to my Yonico knock offs from Banggood I think I will stick to them. It's weird the other brands seem to have great pictures when viewing the bit without the drill now. I will look into the easy set jig.

that's an offset half round...
[Freud Tools - Search Results for half round
Stick486 - would I just need to use a chamfer to get the backside angle? Also for 3/4" stock which radius would be my best option?
 

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Stick486 - would I just need to use a chamfer to get the backside angle? Also for 3/4" stock which radius would be my best option?
FWIW... Whiteside bits are worth looking into...
for me, staying clear of the Orient for bits has more than paid off...
wait till you experience Freud Quadra cuts.. WHEW!!!

accurately draw several sizes of the half round bit...
cut the profile out and hold it to the end of your board...
those bits are measured in radii...
say you use a 3/8 radius bit and lowered it so that it cuts a 1/8'' rebate on the face of the board...
the bottom of the cut will have an ever so slight gentle sweep on the return...
a 1/2'' radii will give you a larger top cove and a more pronounced bottom sweep...
a 5/16'' radii will give you a 1/8'' rebate and a full half round profile...

you say chamfer... this is a true chamfer..
if the edge is radiused.. that's a round over (RO)...

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John (Semipro) brought it to my attention that I may not be on the same page as you...
or the profiles pictured are numbered incorrectly...
start on page 137 of this PDF... take a look at the profiles and see if there is something that lights your fire...
CMT does bits very well but their CS is lacking...
 

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can't seem to find the correct bit on the Freud website (not very novice friendly)
Thanks,

Novice Woodworker
there is nothing like a printed catalog...
all you need to do is ask the vendor for one or have one mailed to you...
what ever catalog(s) you use.. the names pretty much remain the same...

Freud CS/TS is outstanding...

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