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My computer died about the end of August and I attempted to fix it. After two weeks and several repair attempts, I gave up and bought a new one. The new one finally arrived and I fought with Windows 10 for a while, then tried to get back on all of the forums that I had frequented before the big crash. They were all easy, until I tried to get back on this forum. I think I have tried 4 different times over this past week to get my password changed and then log on. Each time I received a new password that contained characters that could be (for these old eyes) two or more possibilities, like zero or O, i or ; , etc. Each time I tried all of the alternatives, but couldn't get it to accept me. I'm not certain what I did different this time, but it finally accepted me. No other forum gave me this difficult of a password nor did I have any trouble at all getting back on. Security is important, but a little less ambiguity in password creation for this forum might be a definite step in the right direction.

But I'm back, finally. YEAH!!! I've very much missed being on here.

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I had some major issues before trying log in . So it’s not just you
 

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Years ago I put all my data on Dropbox, including logons. Changing computers is never any fun, but my basic, use them all the time programs are pretty easy to reinstall. Also, I love Office 2003, the last really great suite before they went retrograde and put in the Ribbon (emulates the 1980s Wordperfect and Wordstar menus but with excessive mouse clicks) and changed the default format. Drop down menus are by far a better solution for us. I purchased about 36 licenses for it and still have half of them left, so I don't have to recover and reinstall. Works fine in 10, which is a better OS by far than 8.

Most of the time the problem is a bad hard drive or power supply capacitors that have dried or burned out. I've kept a reliable XP running for years by replacing the power supply and installing cloned disks. I always keep the most recent old disk just in case. You can't clone a dead disk.

Security isn't much of an issue, but I recently found I could buy 10 licenses for Norton Security for $100 bucks a year, and it's pretty darn good, Even on my older machines, never a virus.

Another good app to add is email and browser backup called MozBackup. Freeware. It will preserve settings and logons, so keep a copy somewhere safe.

And welcome back, I recall you being pretty with it on woodworking stuff.
 

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Nice to see your back Charley.
 

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Good to see you made it back. I agreed the security here is ridiculous.
 

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Thanks guys. In the midst of all this I haven't had the chance to do much of the kind of woodworking that I like to do. I've been plugging slowly away at finishing a bathroom off the upstairs spare bedroom. Then in August we discovered that here has been a small leak in a water line inside the wall of a bathroom on the main level of the house. It wasn't immediately discovered because the bathroom side of the wall is wire lath and concrete under the ceramic tile, so very waterproof. The opposite side of the wall is knotty pine paneling, and we noticed back in mid August that the bottom of the knotty pine was covered with black mold and getting worse. The water has been seeping down through the bottom of the wall and into the crawl space for quite some time resulting in considerable rot of the sub floor and joists in that area.

Doing two bathrooms at once is way more than this 76 year old can handle, so I have a restoration company doing the work on this second bathroom. They started work on this past Thursday with two guys doing the rip out. Now two days of work later they are still removing the walls and fixtures. Boy, am I glad that I didn't attack this myself. That wire lath is sharp as razor blades and the concrete and ceramic tile is requiring cutting with a diamond blade top to bottom every 2 ft to get it out. It looks to me like they have about 2 more days of work to get all of the old concrete and tile completely out, so they can begin replacing the damaged sub floor and wall.

One of their biggest problems was the bathtub. It turned out to be cast steel and not cast iron. Cast iron can be broken into reasonable size pieces with a sledge hammer and then the pieces carried out. This steel tub is 3/8 - 3/4" thick and it doesn't crack into pieces when hit with a big hammer like a cast iron tub. They ended up slicing it into three sections with a diamond blade and then carrying the sections out. I've never seen a cast steel tub before this and neither did the two guys from the restoration company.

I'm supposed to have a completed new bathroom in two weeks, but I don't think they estimated that getting the old bathroom out was going to be anywhere near this difficult. We'll see what the next two weeks brings as things progress. I'm sure glad that I have the upstairs bathroom far enough along to be able to install the toilet and sink, although temporarily. I have a third bathroom, but it seems that my family can't survive with only one working bathroom and I'm wondering how we did so well with only one fifty years ago.

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Geez,tell me about bathrooms . I was in my 40’s when I started my bathroom renovation,and now I’m 57 ,and I’m above two thirds done .
Time to phone Mike Holmes I think
 

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The current password is so complex that it would be impossible for even young computer litterate members to remember, hence mine is written down in an easy to remember place.
 
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The 0 and the O on the computer can only be distinguished by how "fat" the character is. That is a difficult problem in many passwords. In my hand written password file I have it that way. It would be nice if the computer builders put a slash thru the numeric 0. It can be inserted in Word & Excel (it's not simple) but otherwise I don't think it can be (let me know if you know how) it can also be confused with the number "8" if the "slash" doesn't extend completely through the 0. It was used back in "ancient times" when IBM punch cards were in vogue. Yeah, I'm that old, I studied 8 bits to a byte too but that code has long since left my brain. lol

On the other hand, if a password is not complex it is not difficult for a good hacker to figure out. ALWAYS make them complex on any financial sight you visit. I also have mine in an Excel file, which is also password, page,and column "protected". I'm not too keen on "cloud" based password lockers. On the other hand if hackers can break into the Cray or SGI computers that DOD has we don't stand a chance.
 

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The current password is so complex that it would be impossible for even young computer litterate members to remember, hence mine is written down in an easy to remember place.
I copy those type passwords Harry into something like Notes or Notebook or a Word processor file. Then when you need it you just open the file up and copy those passwords and you can paste them where they need to go. Like you said, no human brain can remember some of them. You can name the file where you keep them with some innocuous name that no one would bother looking in like Vacation Photos or Spaghetti Recipes or something that sounds equally boring.

Welcome back Charley.
 

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Geez,tell me about bathrooms . I was in my 40’s when I started my bathroom renovation,and now I’m 57 ,and I’m above two thirds done .
Time to phone Mike Holmes I think
Make it right,make it right,if it takes all day, if it takes all night--------- Hi Rick,if you get Holmes to finish your bathroom,there's a big chance he will renovate your entire house too.lol. I still watch Mike Holmes on tv of a morning. James.jj777746
 

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Just as info: For those who really have concerns over passwords & hackers you can check out VPN's (virtual private networks). They encode your messages so no one can read them except the recipient. Not real pricey. Maybe some of our computer guru's can explain it better.
 

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I no longer use simple passwords. I use phrases instead, usually followed by two numeric characters. When you use numbers, the hacker only has 10 choices per character. Using alphabet means 26 choices per character. I never store logons for spendy places on the computer, nor allow remembering passwords in the browser. I changed to phrases after reading a piece from Bill Gates. My logon for my router was set by the supplier and tells a story about a guy's divorce.

In college, I worked in a jewelry department and we kept the safe's combination in faded pencil on the bottom of a drawer. Those tiny Micro SD cards, about the size and thickness of a fingernail, are a good choice for keeping a copy of your passwords handy. Here's 8 gigs for 10 bucks, plenty for most of us, $15 for 32 gigs. https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-MicroSDHC-MicroSD-adapter-Mobilemate/dp/B00G5JETHA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1539025610&sr=8-3&keywords=Micro+SD+card+with+usb+adapter&th=1
 
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