Thanks BJ. I had no idea they made somehting like this. I often have the scenarios you state here. Got to get one of these as I have several 1/4 shanked bits that just are to short for me to use without yanking them up in the collet and I do not like to do that. Most of these bits are 1/8, 1/4 and 3/8 straights, beading etc. Some operations I end up doing on the table saw cause I can't get a dado or groove to the depth I need. Thanks again BJ!