Triton plunge, track saw review - Router Forums
 11Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-27-2017, 07:29 PM Thread Starter
Forum Contributor
 
DesertRatTom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Country: United States
First Name: Tom
Posts: 16,048
 
Default Triton plunge, track saw review

After a couple of weeks delay, here's the promised review of the Triton plunge/track saw, Model TTS 1400. I purchased this on sale about a month ago from Rockler. I also purchased the 59 inch long track for it and the two, 27 inch short tracks, since I wanted sufficient length to cut 5 ft sq BB ply.

First step was replacing the stock blade with a 165 mm Infinity purpose built blade. This had a slightly wider kerf than the Triton and the carbide teeth look to be slightly wider and noticeably thicker for potentially more sharpenings. Replacement was easy. There is a small switch with two overlapping symbols beside the top of the plunge handle. This is the setting for changing blades. Press down on the handle and the blade goes down just far enough to reveal the bolt and washer that hold the blade on. The saw clicks and holds this position until you are finished. Slide the blade out toe bottom slot, slide the new blade in, put the washer and bolt back in and tighten. There is a push button that when pressed in, locks the blade so it won't rotate. A handy item is that the Allen wrench used to loosen/tighten the bolt bits in an opening in the upper handle so you won't lose it.

Next order of busines was connecting one short track to the long one, since you must trim the rubber hold down strip before first use. I was disappointed to discover that one of the short tracks did not quite line up with the long track, in fact, this raised portion caused the saw to hang up slightly when passing the joint. I will see about a replacement. The other segment lined up correctly. Be sure to get the alignment right before tightening the set screws on the connectors. The connectors are two strips so the set screws engage the top and bottom of the two T tracks into which they fit. There is a very tiny bit of plan that will permit you to aligh the two tracks before cinching them down tight with the supplied allen wrench. I stowed the wrench in the instruction book, otherwise I'll lose track of it.

You trim the edge using the scoring setting. The same switch that allows changing the blade has a second symbol with a line drawn through the edge of a circle for the scribe cut setting. This limits the plunge to about 3/16ths below the track. I did this with two 2x4s set side by side. The scribe cut was clean and crisp. This produce a nice clean edge on the rubber. The anti friction tape of the tracks did their job so sliding the saw was smooth and easy.

The knobs... The blade side of the saw contains several settings. The trunion adjustment allows setting the blade angle anywhere from 90 to about 48 degrees. Very solid and seems to be precise. There is a depth of cut limiting know that you set so the teeth just clear the workpiece. I think I set it to go too deep, so as the teeth came up out of the workpiece, it tore out fine splinters in the outside. The cut was very clean under the rubber hold down side.

If you look at the pictures, you'll see several strips cut from the same piece of BB ply. The top edge is the roughest and was cut with my DeWalt 18v circular saw with a fairly fine blade. It was the exit side of the cut. The middle narrow strip shows the tearout from the Triton on the unprotected edge. This ply has been sitting in our very dry weather for months and I think that contributed to the problem. The third strip was cut with the Triton with blue tape on the edge and has almost no tearout. Blue painter's tape will be a regular thing for me. I think I also need to reduce the depth of cut so the whole gullet isn't visible below the workpiece. A shallower angle slice might help with tearout. The only problem edge is the one not supported where the blade exits. All other edges are very clean. I have not tried a piece of melamine, so I can't comment on chip out. I suspect that with the Infinity blade, scribing and keeping the good side down, it will be slight

Dust collection was quite good. The picture shows the residue after 3 cuts. The DC port happened to fit into a hose I got from Lowes. I'll be using some of Rockler's stretchy tape to seal this a little better, but there was no dust flying around at all. My hose terminates in a 4 inch connector that fits into my HF DC unit. I use the same setup to clean out my table saw, but I'll keep the hose in the garage shop with the track saw. I was expecting mediocre performance on DC, so this was a very pleasant surprise.

It takes a little while to figure out what all the knobs do, but they mostly have to do with fitting the saw tight to the track.

Power on this saw seemed to be a little light. You will want to let it run up to speed before plunging, then let it wind to a stop before lifting the saw off the track. It is close to 10 lbs, and if I had to lift it all day long, it would be unpleasant. If I were doing construction, expecially finish work, I'd pop for the Festool, but for my purposes the Triton TTS1400 is a very nice choice

Over all, I'd give this an 8.5 to 9 on a scale of 10. Worth the near $500 I paid for the whole kit and kaboodle. But I will definitely be using painter's tape or scoring cuts with it for best results.

Nice to get back in the shop again.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Triton Track saw knobby side.jpg
Views:	507
Size:	232.6 KB
ID:	301633  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Triton cut samples.jpg
Views:	383
Size:	175.9 KB
ID:	301641  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Triton track sawdust residue.jpg
Views:	316
Size:	82.6 KB
ID:	301649  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Triton Track Saw long track.jpg
Views:	456
Size:	50.9 KB
ID:	301657  


The more I do, the less I accomplish.

Last edited by DesertRatTom; 09-27-2017 at 07:33 PM.
DesertRatTom is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-27-2017, 07:37 PM
Marine Engineer
 
kp91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Country: United States
First Name: Doug
Posts: 4,513
 
Default

Nice review, good to know how the other options compare to the really expensive one.

Doug
1 John 1:9
Fredericksburg, VA




http://disasterreliefeffort.org/
kp91 is offline  
post #3 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-27-2017, 07:39 PM
Registered User
 
RainMan 2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Country: Canada
First Name: Rick
Posts: 15,899
 
Default

Glad to hear your back in the shop Tom
That's a neat tip with painters tape . Will definitely remember that one .

I don’t always insulate , but when I do .
Ok ,I never insulate
RainMan 2.0 is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-28-2017, 01:23 AM
Registered User
 
Steven Owen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Country: Canada
First Name: Steven
Posts: 230
 
Default

Thanks for posting the Triton review Tom. Honestly, I’ve never understood why Triton and Makita have never added a sacrificial plastic off cut splinter guard to their track saws.

It’s cheap and easy fix to splintering in the off cut side of the board. There’s no reason for the Makita and Triton not to have an off cut splitter guard given the Saw is going to be used to cut plywood for things like drawers.

I love to make pretty things for pretty little things
Steven Owen is offline  
post #5 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-28-2017, 07:18 AM
Registered User
 
dirt_dobber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Country: United States
First Name: Randy
Posts: 53
 
Default

That was a magazine quality tool review - good work Tom.
But now I have to add another tool to my buy list that keep growing.

Making sawdust regularly, occasionally a project is completed.
dirt_dobber is offline  
post #6 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-28-2017, 10:05 AM
Moderation Team
 
MT Stringer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Country: United States
First Name: Mike
Posts: 5,626
 
Default

Thanks for the review, Tom.

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
MT Stringer is online now  
post #7 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-28-2017, 12:34 PM Thread Starter
Forum Contributor
 
DesertRatTom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Country: United States
First Name: Tom
Posts: 16,048
 
Default Repost with spelling corrections:

After a couple of weeks delay, here's the promised review of the Triton plunge/track saw, Model TTS 1400. I purchased this on sale about a month ago from Rockler. I also purchased the 59 inch long track for it and the two, 27 inch short tracks, since I wanted sufficient length to cut 5 ft sq BB ply.

First step was replacing the stock blade with a 165 mm Infinity purpose built blade. This had a slightly wider kerf than the Triton and the carbide teeth look to be slightly wider and noticeably thicker for potentially more sharpenings. Replacement was easy. There is a small switch with two overlapping circles beside the top of the plunge handle. This is the setting for changing blades. Press down on the handle and the blade goes down just far enough to reveal the bolt and washer that hold the blade on. The saw clicks and holds this position until you are finished. Slide the blade out the bottom slot, slide the new blade in, put the washer and bolt back in and tighten. There is a push button that when pressed in, locks the blade so it won't rotate. A handy item is that the Allen wrench used to loosen/tighten the bolt fits in an opening in the upper handle so you won't lose it.

Next order of busines was connecting one short track to the long one, since you must trim the rubber hold down strip before first use. I was disappointed to discover that one of the short tracks did not quite line up with the long track, in fact, this raised portion caused the saw to hang up slightly when passing the joint. I will see about a replacement. The other segment lined up correctly. Be sure to get the alignment right before tightening the set screws on the connectors. The connectors are two strips so the set screws engage the top and bottom of the two T tracks into which they fit. There is a very tiny bit of play that will permit you to align the two tracks before cinching them down tight with the supplied allen wrench. I stowed the wrench in the instruction book, otherwise I'll surely lose track of it.

You trim the edge using the scoring setting. The same switch that allows changing the blade has a second circle symbol with a line drawn through the edge of the circle for the scribe cut setting. This limits the plunge to about 3/16ths below the track. I did this with two 2x4s set side by side. The scribe cut was clean and crisp. This produces a nice clean edge on the rubber. The anti friction tape on the tracks did their job so sliding the saw was smooth and easy. You must turn the anti kickback knob on the side of the saw's base to allow it to slide backwards on the track.

The knobs... The blade side of the saw contains several settings. The trunion adjustment allows setting the blade angle anywhere from 90 to about 48 degrees. Very solid and seems to be precise. There is a depth of cut limiting knob that you set so the teeth just clear the workpiece. I think I set it to go too deep, so as the teeth came up out of the workpiece, it tore out fine splinters in the outside. The cut was very clean under the rubber hold down side.

If you look at the pictures, you'll see several strips cut from the same piece of BB ply. The top edge is the roughest and was cut with my DeWalt 18v circular saw with a fairly fine blade. It was the exit side of the cut. The middle narrow strip shows the tearout from the Triton on the unprotected edge. This ply has been sitting in our very dry weather for months and I think that contributed to the problem. The third strip was cut with the Triton with blue tape on the edge and has almost no tearout. Blue painter's tape will be a regular thing for me. I think I also need to reduce the depth of cut so the whole gullet isn't visible below the workpiece. A shallower angle slice might help with tearout. The only problem edge is the one not supported where the blade exits. All other edges are very clean. I have not tried a piece of melamine, so I can't comment on chip out. I suspect that with the Infinity blade, scribing and keeping the good side down, it will be slight

Dust collection was quite good. The picture shows the residue after 3 cuts. The DC port happened to fit into a hose I got from Lowes. I'll be using some of Rockler's stretchy tape to seal this a little better, but there was no dust flying around at all. My hose terminates in a 4 inch connector that fits into my HF DC unit. I use the same setup to clean out my table saw, but I'll keep the hose in the garage shop with the track saw. I was expecting mediocre performance on DC, so this was a very pleasant surprise.

It takes a little while to figure out what all the knobs do, but they mostly have to do with fitting the saw tight to the track. There are holes at the end of each track so you can hang them up, out of harm's way.

Power on this saw seemed to be a little light. You will want to let it run up to speed before plunging, then let it wind to a stop before lifting the saw off the track. It is close to 10 lbs, and if I had to lift it all day long, it would be unpleasant. If I were doing construction, expecially finish work, I'd pop for the Festool, but for my purposes the Triton TTS1400 is a very nice choice

Over all, I'd give this an 8.5 to 9 on a scale of 10. Worth the near $500 I paid for the whole kit and kaboodle. But I will definitely be using painter's tape or scoring cuts with it for best results.

Nice to get back in the shop again. And this is much easier to read than the original. Good writing is all about editing.

The more I do, the less I accomplish.
DesertRatTom is offline  
post #8 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-28-2017, 06:47 PM
Moderation Team
 
MT Stringer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Country: United States
First Name: Mike
Posts: 5,626
 
Default

Tom, is the Triton track a proprietary design or will it mate up to other brands. I would like to see a picture of the end of the track and the connector pieces.

And a side note...my track saw is a light weight (in horsepower) compared to the Makita magnesium framed circular saw I own. That saw is a hoss.

My track saw is the same as the Grizzly saw. I even bought two of the long track pieces because my saw only came with two short ones. And I use the DeWalt track saw clamps. Those are really nice and get used for other tasks all the time.

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
MT Stringer is online now  
post #9 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-29-2017, 02:01 AM Thread Starter
Forum Contributor
 
DesertRatTom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Country: United States
First Name: Tom
Posts: 16,048
 
Default

Hi Mike, I have been trying to find out whether the track is interchangeable with other saws, but no luck so far. I'll try to get a picture with measure, but will be out for awhile tomorrow. I know that Makita and Festool tracks are interchangable, but can't find info on track interchangeability on the Griz.

The more I do, the less I accomplish.
DesertRatTom is offline  
post #10 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-29-2017, 08:05 AM
Registered User
 
Steven Owen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Country: Canada
First Name: Steven
Posts: 230
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DesertRatTom View Post
Hi Mike, I have been trying to find out whether the track is interchangeable with other saws, but no luck so far. I'll try to get a picture with measure, but will be out for awhile tomorrow. I know that Makita and Festool tracks are interchangable, but can't find info on track interchangeability on the Griz.
The design is compatible with Festool and Makita. All three companies have nearly indentical tracks. Festool doesn’t have a bevel lock on their tracks. Aside from that, the tracks saws and track clamps can interchange.

I love to make pretty things for pretty little things
Steven Owen is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Router Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Track Saws Steven Owen Tools and Woodworking 174 10-14-2017 12:18 AM
Coping Sled Suitable For Triton RTA 300 Router Table Gaia Jigs and Fixtures 11 11-25-2015 03:15 PM
Plunge Depth On A Triton TRA001/TRC001 3-1/4 AzViper General Routing 2 04-19-2011 09:27 PM
Triton 3 1/4HP Plunge Router Sale! $189.99 mpbc48 The Bargain Bin 0 03-26-2011 02:58 PM
Problems with Triton in Table. hgporter Table-mounted Routing 4 06-12-2009 12:18 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome