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At this time I'm not considering anything cordless. I very seldom use anything except my drill, with a spade bit, and use it at my router table, don't drag any cord anywhere. I can go out there, pull the trigger on it, and it will work; no worrying about charging batteries, replacing batteries, etc. If my needs change, then I may consider cordless, depending on how the needs change, but not until then. I'm content with what I've got, it works for me.

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I bought my Bosch orbital barrel grip 120V jigsaw about 20 yrs ago. Used the same one at work to cut 1" thick mdf back then. A real workhorse, with the precision of a swiss watch.

The power and stability is unprecedented and I seriously doubt any battery powered tool is going to come close in power delivery or stability/precision of cut, especially when it's thick and dense material like alum, 1/4" steel or hardwoods.
Also, it is heavy, which stabilizes it - a lighter tool is not necessarily better when you consider the motion of the blade and related vibration from cutting into hard material.
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Also, (the 20 year old Bosch barrel grip jigsaw) is heavy, which stabilizes it - a lighter tool is not necessarily better when you consider the motion of the blade and related vibration from cutting into hard material.
Battery operated tools have that weight and mass you are talking about, because the power supply is being carried on board.
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I was researching a new Jigsaw for myself and found that people brag about the Bosch. I have Dewalt 20v cordless tools but the Dewalt Jig saw is 149.00 at lowes. A good corded Bosh is in the same price range. I have some older 18V Makita Drill, Driver and flashlight that are pre LXT. So the older Makita tools still work perfectly but the battery is not comparable with the newer versions. Since I do not want a 3rd brand of charger I will most likely buy the Bosch corded.

One think to consider with cordless tools is the battery capacity. I have the dewalt cordless saw and it eats up a battery. When you let off the trigger it is electronically braked using battery power. I also have a Dewalt cut off tool. That eats batteries also. The Drill does not use up a battery so I have two 2 amp hour batteries and 2 5amp hour batteries. I just charge them and keep them lined up in charge order to even out use. So sometimes the drill gets the 5 amp hour and some times the 2 amp hour. When I use the saw or grander I put a 5 amp hour battery on. The grinder especially will not last till the water gets hot on a 2 amp hour battery.

I did buy my son in law a cordless Dewalt 60V chainsaw for christmas. The 60 V battery can be used on the 20 volt tools effectively making 3 batteries for a 20 volt tool. So if you do not have any cordless tools the Dewalt should be at the top of your list and get the 60 volt batteries. But buy the higher amp hour batteries and you will get long run times and fast charges.
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I bought my son the corded DW for Christmas a year ago and it is a really nice saw. It also featured tool less blade changes. I got it for $99 Canadian on Amazon. My own jigsaw is a Metabo I bought at least 20 years ago. It would be pretty hard to beat.

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
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I did buy my son in law a cordless Dewalt 60V chainsaw for christmas.
Back in the day, when I could actually use a chainsaw, I had a cordless. It ran on gas tho.

I did pickup two used electric chainsaw awhile back, corded, very cheap. They will be used for Tiki carving - when I can get someone to take the wood out of my truck that is.

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So if you do not have any cordless tools the Dewalt should be at the top of your list and get the 60 volt batteries. But buy the higher amp hour batteries and you will get long run times and fast charges.
Before buying the higher amp hour DeWalt (and Milwaukee, for that matter) batteries blindly... be sure and go to a bricks and mortar store that actually has these huge honkin 60v and 12 ah batteries in stock, and ask for an associate's help in unlocking display models so that you can heave and hurl the heft of your tool of choice with those larger batteries installed. The difference is H U G E, most noticeably in size, making the tool less nimble to use within tight places and clearances (inside cabinets, etc).

So an inventory of smaller sized batteries would be advisable for everyday work.

I have zero interest in promoting or denigrating one tool brand from another, but I can share that I recently changed cordless tool brands, and one of the considerations that factored heavily in my decision of which battery brand to pick was functional ergonomics in close quarters. The other considerations were:

- Form Factor Power Density... the density of amp hours per cubic cm of battery pack

- Form Factor Power Distribution... the distribution of battery bulk and weight as configured on the tools I was most likely to use.

- Power Cost Ratio... comparative cost per amp hour, using online tools like camelcamelcamel, combined with my own shopping experience to compare battery pack costs over a 2 year period to include periodic and seasonal sales. My target for Lithium Ion has been $12.50 per ah, which thus far I've always managed to meet.

- Interchangeability and Integration... can the batteries within a brand work in all tools interchangeably (not just in fitment, but in ergonomic function)

- Portfolio of tool solutions... does the brand offer a tool solution that meets my needs in the shop, on the job, as well as outdoors in the yard


So for me, the decision wasn't about getting the biggest battery... it was more a confluence of factors that helped inform my choice. And ergonomics was a major factor.
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I would stay away from a cordless saw unless you have a need for one such as a lot of work outside. Unless the battery is fully charged it will not cut as fast or through wood as well as a corded one. It will run out of juice at the time you need it most and when it comes time to buy a new battery you'll feel like your buying the tool for a second time. A drill is another matter, you need to take it places that cord would make it difficult. A drill is usually used for a hole that is quickly drilled vs. a saw that can take a while to cut and therefore worth the extra time to get the cord out.
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I would stay away from a cordless saw unless you have a need for one such as a lot of work outside.
As long as I work in my shop, no cordless tools for me. My two sons use cordless tools, but they do a LOT of work in their jobs where there is no power for corded tools, so for them it only makes sense to go cordless.
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