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Default Grizzly 8 pc. (budget) Chisel set

Let me first say this is the first chisel SET I've owned. To be truthful, the only chisels I've owned have been purchased for the job at hand and were usually junk from HD, Lowes, or (forgive me) Walmart. I'd need something to do a repair or something, run somewhere, buy the cheapest thing I could find and go home and do the best I could with it. Then it would get tossed into the tool box and rattled around till I needed a chisel again only to find that the abuse had dinged it up so bad it was about as sharp as a spoon.

I've owned a lot of crappy chisels and have proven that I don't care for them well and until this week I have never sharpened a single one. The stuff I plan to do will demand that I change that, so I have purchased my first set of reasonably good chisels.

I had a good experience with Grizzly with one order and wanted to give them another shot to validate that. I put in an order for the following set.

H7755 Deluxe Bevel Edge Chisel 8 Pc. Set

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This is the Grizzly house budget set which are the Shop Fox brand (stamped on the steel) and come in a Steelex branded box that doesn't say Shop Fox or Grizzly any where on it. Grizzly's price was a nickel shy of $44 US. The very same chisel set is sold elsewhere for between $60 and $70 so I feel good about the price. I was told they were on backorder till June 30 but they arrived this week. When they arrived a brief inspection revealed two small but noticeable nicks on the 3/4" and burr on the 3/8" bevel side. Otherwise they were sharp enough to use out of the box. While on the subject of the box I'll have to say although it seems they tried to make a decent one, the chisels can rest on the edges and they all roll around a little inside if the box is tilted or shook any at all. I suspect this may be the source of the two nicks but in any event either I'll have to make additional provisions with the box or build something else if i want to keep these any better than the ones I've owned in the past.

At the same time I ordered a basic sharpening jig. I don't have the money for a set of water stones at the this time so I opted to buy some $3.95 12" x 12" granite tiles and this set of progressive grit polishing papers from Amazon.



The abrasives are from 30 micron down to 1 micron (600 up to 14000 grit) and are color coded for easy identification except for the 1 micron which was white but the backing for all of them was white. So at 1 micron the grit was so fine I found myself checking to make sure I was using the right side.

I started, as I should, by attempting to flatten the back of the big 1-1/2" boy and found the backs to be just a little concave. A little work produced a good wear pattern all along the edge and back from the edge a little over 1/2" that continued around and along the sides. Kind of like the Japanese chisels I've read about but it was obviously not intentional. I got a good light burr on the bevel side and moved on, moving through the grits all the way to the 1 micron. By this time I had a near mirror finish which revealed that I had left some of the original factory grind marks. I mounted the chisel in the jig and did my best to match the bevel. I'll have to say the jig worked better than I had hoped considering some of the knife sharpening gizmos I've used in the past. The chisels seemed to take an edge well enough with out being TOO easy so the steel may very well hold the edge for a while ... we'll see.

All I've done to date is inspect and sharpen with a few test cuts to check them out. All-in-all I'm happy so far but only time will tell.

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Cool idea I have been looking to replace my 3 chisels that I use and have to sharpen every time

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You need to consider the polishing papers "consumables". They don't last very long. I'm not going to use them for long. Water stones will be much cheaper in the long run but funds were tight, as usual, so stop gap measures prevailed.

I need to use them some to see if the edge will hold up. I figure I'll need some time to work my way out of my bad habits. These will be a good bridge set for that and to see which sizes I like.

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I have some of the papers too but I mostly stick with my diamond stones- cheap ones. They work well and last a long time. You should be able to find a set of 3 for around $15-20. The 6"x2" may be a bit short for using with a jig but you could solve that by insetting them flush into a piece of ply or mdf. What really makes the difference for me is a felt wheel and green honing compound (about 8000g) to finish them.
I have a variety of chisels, including some old ones from Sheffield, Eng. and all of them have been concave on the backs.

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
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... mostly stick with my diamond stones- cheap ones. They work well and last a long time. You should be able to find a set of 3 for around $15-20. ...
I looked around and all I found at that price were some 1" x 3" sets with course to medium grit (up to 400). What grits do you have and do know of a source or maybe a brand? That would help out with the search.

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All my sources so far have been Canadian and the grits vary. They are definitely of Chinese origin so someone will be selling them in the States. The first set I bought were 300, 400, and 600 grit. The other set is around 200, 300, and 400. 400 is still a little coarse. The 600 will give you a very sharp edge but not sharp enough to shave hair off your arm. The felt wheel takes care of that. I have a 6" for the grinder and a drill driven one that is about 3 to 3 1/2 inches which I got from Lee Valley. Both work. I have seen quite a few of these 3 piece sets on ebay. One of the best prices I saw was on ebay U.K. but I can't remember if the shipping made it a little more expensive than here.
The really coarse stones are good if you really dull the edge but they are also good for truing up waterstones. And you can also use the diamond stones to resharpen router bits. Not as good as new but noticeably better. I find it easiest to lay the hone on the edge of a workbenck and rub the bit back and forth. They don't work on the chip limiting style. You need the thin diamond files for those, so it doesn't hurt to have one of those around too.
I just remembered that the first set was made, or distributed by, Force Tools. Maybe you can try googling that and see if they sell down there.

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Patrick, I found a set of the 2x6 diamond stones at Harbor Freight for around ten bucks. One word of advice...don't use oil on them or you will break the glue bond between the plastic and the steel plates. Use water and keep them clean and they do a great job.
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Is this the item?



Diamond Hone Block - Four Sided Diamond Hone

I've been wondering about those and others I've seen on Amazon and Ebay since Chuck mentioned them. I just haven't moved on them yet. I'll still need some finer stuff for finishing but those ought to get me most of the way. Thanks to you both.

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My son bought one of those from Princess Auto here for about $10 on sale (reg $20). Very good deal. It won't sharpen chip limiting type router bits but it will sharpen most everything else. Sometimes the 6"x2" won't sharpen them either, not enough room. The files will. If you can get that for $10 to $15 you won't be sorry.
You can do a pretty good job by hand with a little practice. Being absolutely square is not all it is cracked up to be. Often times you hold the chisel at a skew angle anyway. Being really sharp is all it is cracked up to be.

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If you haven't signed up for the free weekly tips from Woodsmith you should. I extracted this from a recent tip, perfect for sharpening these chisels if you use a straight cut for the edge guide.
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