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I'm thinking about getting one of these to install the motor permanently in my shop made router table:

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But I worry about the reliability of the HF power tools. Thoughts?
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Chris, for use in the router table, I would get a variable speed router. The router you have shown is fixed speed.

Also, I would go for a 3+ hp router as you will need this in the future as your projects expand your woodworking expectations.

Quality wise, this router SHOULD be capable of small jobs for the home wood worker if not pushed beyond its limits.

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Hi Chris - I would heed Jame's sage advice - your indeed need a more powerful and reliable router in your table, and VS is certainly desirable depending on the bit width.

My suggestion depending on your budget is to save up for a better brand/model, otherwise you will likely replace the less expensive machine and end up w/ the same price or more? Just a thought (and one that I've experienced several times in buying cheap tools).

I have a P-C 891 2 1/4 HP in my Veritas table - works fine for my needs (don't do BIG bits such as panel cutters), so I would suggest a named brand/model w/ VS as already recommended - look at P-C, Bosch, Milwaukee, Hitachi, and other known companies - you will likely be happier w/ your selection. Good luck and please post back any other concerns - plenty of great members here to help!
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I beg to differ. My Bosch 1617 2-1/4 hp fixed speed has handled any job with no problems. I have an external speed controller which is a better choice in my opinion. External controllers are larger which means better heat dissipation and since they are usually mounted to the table they are subject to less vibration than internal models. Since the biggest cause of failures in routers is internal controllers this is something to think about. External speed controllers also cost less than half the price of most internal controllers.

I bought a PC 7518 to have the added power when needed but my Bosch 1617's have always been up to the task. I do not spin large horizontal panel raising bits, I use vertical panel raising bits which cost less and require less power. They also have a much smaller diameter so they can be run at higher speeds... in the routers power zone.

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Hi Chris

I would say go for it and at the same pickup the item below, a 2HP will do it all..you don't need a tank of router most of the time and the wiz kids on the forum will tell you there is no such thing as a 3 HP router, if you go by the watts on the router..

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I'm thinking about getting one of these to install the motor permanently in my shop made router table:

2 Horsepower Fixed Base Router

But I worry about the reliability of the HF power tools. Thoughts?



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Just my opinion. I wouldn't buy ANY power tools from HF. Junk made in China.
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Just my opinion. I wouldn't buy ANY power tools from HF. Junk made in China.
You sound like a man who has never been in a HF store. Unfortunately, anymore even big name power tools are now often made in China, often in the same plant along side of HF brand power tools, with just cosmetic differences. When I got my HF table saw, in about 1997/8, for about $75 new, I saw identical saws, except for color, and with big names on them, listed in the $300 range. Sad, but true. That saw is still working fine. As is my HF drillpress, angle grinder, wood lathe, all bought around the same time peiod. I wish all my tools had been made in the USA, but the reality is, most of them are not, and even when they are most of them are priced way out of my fixed income budget.

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I've been in HF stores. Their standards for quality are a lot lower than top name brands even if they are made in the same plant. JMHO.
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I have the HF 2HP router in one of my tables, with external speed control, this thing is a workhorse, I could put it beside any of my PC routers, and I bet money you can't tell me which one did any of the routing. For $49.00 and take a 20% coupon with ya, kinda a no brainer. Yes I know all of you professional garage work shop on the weekend gotta have the high dollar tools will hammer HF, it's good for those of us that use HF tools, we don't have to worry about seeing you in there with your nose in the air.
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Joe, this is not a case of a nose being in the air; this is a proven track record. HF power tools have always been poor quality. Their air tools are on par with brand names, many of their hand tools are good quality.

I am always willing to inspect new tools and give them a chance if they look up to the task. In fact the reason Chris started this thread is because I suggested he might want to try the 68341 in his table. I think this router should perform well for many forum members. I know it will not stand up to the amount of routing I do. Why you ask? For one thing it only has ball bearings on one end of the shaft. The routers I prefer have ball bearings on both ends, this is just common sense. I appreciate your feedback on the router you own.
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