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I've been searching the Net for information on which Carter Stabilizer fits my Powermatic 14" band saw (PWBS-14CS). I found no specific information, even on Carter's web site, mentioning my saw.

I talked with a Carter employee a month ago and he said he'd send me dimensions of the [rectangular] shafts of each of their models having that kind of shaft, so I determine which one I needed. Unfortunately, we must have suffered the "let me share my email with you" syndrome and the PDF never arrived.

Yesterday, I made another call, and talked to Diane, who informed me I needed their STD1.

I only allow myself a couple hundred a month for tool and equipment related purchases and I'm already two hundred over that this month, so I won't be able to buy and report on this until after the first. Meanwhile, I thought I'd post this for those, like me, who have a Powermatic and can't find information on Stabilizers for it.

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Kelly I will mention this to the Carter people at the Woodworking Show this Saturday. I want to get one for my Steel City but it is not in the budget yet.

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I pointed out to the Carter folks they're missing sales, since this is a popular and well known band saw. If I'm having that much trouble finding information on it, others are too. I got tired of looking nearly a year ago and just gave up.

Maybe if you remind them too, they'll look into a simple modification of their web page.

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Kelly, what are your thoughts on the bandsaw? had any issues? limitations etc. Do you use the riser block? I'm in the market and this one is on my short list...

thanks for any info you might be able to provide..

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I wrote an extensive review about my Powermatic PWBS 14CS band saw, under the pen name dejure. Hopefully, it and reviews by others will provide some insightful information


Right now, I'm just running the standard bearing guide pack (10 bearings - which can be bought for $5.00, plus shipping, versus the $20.00, per piece, price tag Powermatic puts on them).

The Stabilizer is on the agenda for next month. Like I mentioned, I try to limit toy buying, so I don't give the woman of my dreams a heart attack. I count wire to upgrade the shop as the front end of a toy and I already bought a couple 250 ft rolls of that, some buffer spindles, buff wheels, elbows for the cyclone........

Of course, I'll have to swap both guide and blade when jumping between 1/4" and under to my 1/2" blade, which I use for re-sawing.

I plan on installing a riser block, though it isn't a must right now. Most the re-sawing I do is small stuff. For example, I grab apple branches from the pruning of the thousands of acres of apples around here and use the wood for spurtles, spoons, etc. I'll add it anyway, just to have the capacity available. I haven't heard of anyone complaining and wanting to go back to a 93ish inch blade. Of course, you save a couple bucks per blade, and I have to figure out what to do with all the blades I have, and the holder, since it's designed for the shorter blades.

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Kelly, what are your thoughts on the bandsaw? had any issues? limitations etc. Do you use the riser block? I'm in the market and this one is on my short list...

thanks for any info you might be able to provide..

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Kelly..

Thanks a million.... appreciate the feedback. How is the table for angle adjustments? accurate? For a 14" saw, I suspect a 1 1/2hp motor would be plenty, would you agree?
I'll need the riser, since I like doing resaws for veneer work. Does the saw keep a tight line?
Does she hold adjustments well? and I guess, would you say that its worth the money?

thanks again..
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This webpage at Carter's Standard Model #1-STD1 | Band Saw Stabilizer® | Band Saw Products | Carter Products
specifically calls out the PowerMatic 14CS.

I bought my Stabilizer by watching E-bay. Cost 40.67 including shipping.

Search descriptions for carter STD1

And by the way, I have a Powermatic riser installed in my Jet 14" band saw. Just doesn't match the eggshell white of the Jet.
An oddity: 14" without takes 93 1/2" blades. With riser they only offer 105". Go figure. When I can I order 105 1/2" blades.

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My friend bought a Grizzly for much less and is happy with it. However, it doesn't have the quick release, wheel brush, portable base or the light. Too, it would be interesting to compare his wheels to mine, as well as over all weight.




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Kelly..

Thanks a million.... appreciate the feedback. How is the table for angle adjustments? accurate? For a 14" saw, I suspect a 1 1/2hp motor would be plenty, would you agree?
I'll need the riser, since I like doing resaws for veneer work. Does the saw keep a tight line?
Does she hold adjustments well? and I guess, would you say that its worth the money?

thanks again..
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Thanks Ralph. I've put numerous searches in and my band saw never showed in the page results. Even when I called Carter, the best they could do was tell me they'd send me specs, until the last time. [or I could have resorted to my old bad habit of reading too fast]

I talked to Diane, who talked to someone, and was told the Powermatic guides are not Carter guides, contrary to how they are often promoted. But this time, talking to her, got me the answer.

As a side note, a search here, at Sawmill, Lumberjocks and Web didn't give any useful information either. Now that it's clear, I'll post it for others.

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This webpage at Carter's Standard Model #1-STD1 | Band Saw Stabilizer® | Band Saw Products | Carter Products
specifically calls out the PowerMatic 14CS.

I bought my Stabilizer by watching E-bay. Cost 40.67 including shipping.

Search descriptions for carter STD1

And by the way, I have a Powermatic riser installed in my Jet 14" band saw. Just doesn't match the eggshell white of the Jet.
An oddity: 14" without takes 93 1/2" blades. With riser they only offer 105". Go figure. When I can I order 105 1/2" blades.

The reason I have what you want is, I never lent it out before.

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Hey Kelly I have a riser block you can have for shipping charge. I have had my Powermatic for 1 year. Got it from Amazon who tried to sell me a riser block but I didn't want it but it came with one. After a few months I put it on and a few months later took it off. I have a friend who did the same thing. I also have some 105" blades you can have. E-mail me if you want it.
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